sharpening a woodsman PLUS Pyramid

[Terry Green]

Well a higher grit will definitely go faster, I just had 150 on my work bench. Working with a lower grit will give you some room for error though. The power sander would be the best, I was operating on the assumption he had to sharpen them manually.

John...I think you miss understood me....

You said 150 grit on counter....which I assume is by hand.....

200 grit is just higher in number but light grit....

So....that's why I said 'moving faster' cause I'm using a belt sander.

Rougher slower - Lighter faster = same result 

[Terry Green]

Pyramid....

Lay the head flat on your sharpening surface ....now grab the head by the up blade in the middle and lift up 1/4 inch and drag backwards....rotate the blade an repeat.

Depending on the surface this may take 10 to 20 times.  Once you get it like you want it....check the tip for a bur on one side. ....lay that side down and do the same as above but VERY LIGHT.

Now you should be done.

This method is the most consistent for me....henceforth the easiest.

[1whitetail1]

Terry, I have started using VPA 3 blade. I can get them sharp ,but have not made a pyramid on the point. I will start doing that. Thanks for the info on how to do it.

[Terry Green]

Yes Sir....the VPAs come with the bevels level.  I just use a diamond hone on them.

[1whitetail1]

Thank You

[caleb7mm]

Pyramid....

Lay the head flat on your sharpening surface ....now grab the head by the up blade in the middle and lift up 1/4 inch and drag backwards....rotate the blade an repeat.

Depending on the surface this may take 10 to 20 times.  Once you get it like you want it....check the tip for a bur on one side. ....lay that side down and do the same as above but VERY LIGHT.

Now you should be done.

This method is the most consistent for me....henceforth the easiest.

This is how ray Hammond showed me about 10 years ago. Works like a charm.

And, Am I the only person on the planet that can get ANY double bevel 2 or 3 blade head to pop hair but put a 2 blade single bevel in my hand and I just make it worse? 

[Terry Green]

HA!  I showed Ray how to do it in 06. ....on the porch on a picnic table at Ray's Hog Heaven. 

[Zradix]

txcookie...sent you a message

[Zradix]

This helped me more than I can say.
The way Mr. Swartz explains the "why" you're doing it made everything make sense. (SEE ATTACHMENT) [attachment=1,msg2883058]
Using a 14" babbit file at 1st will do wonders for edge setting.
...in all honesty, with a really light touch on the babbit the heads could be good enough in a pinch.

[caleb7mm]

HA!  I showed Ray how to do it in 06. ....on the porch on a picnic table at Ray's Hog Heaven. 

That's funny!  He showed me with a big bastard file on his back porch a few years after you showed him. Wish I would of been able to make it out to hog Heaven before it closed down

[Broken Arrows]

I just got back from my yearly deer hunt. On the opening morning I got a 25 yard shot at a nice doe, for some reason I shot low and she was gone. I went and found my arrow check the WW broad head and it needed some sharping so I used the method I posted except all I needed was the diamond stone, 60 storks later it was ready to go. Two days later I got another shot at 25.5 yards, the deer was slightly quartered toward me my arrow entered just in front of the shoulder and exited the center of the off shoulder then went another 10 yards.
The WW's are great broad heads and I can reuse the same head again for Elk in 2 days.

Dave

[txcookie]

So after all yalls advice a new file a new stone i can get these things good and sharp. I prefer a little tooth to my edge but still good and shaving. This has been achieved and i got one honed and stroped just to see if i could.

All ya need is a sharpie, a wide file, and a decent stone. These things sharpen easily with the right tools. Thanks to all

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[caleb7mm]

Good deal TX! Now run one through something tasty. 

[txcookie]

Pyramid....

Lay the head flat on your sharpening surface ....now grab the head by the up blade in the middle and lift up 1/4 inch and drag backwards....rotate the blade an repeat.

Depending on the surface this may take 10 to 20 times.  Once you get it like you want it....check the tip for a bur on one side. ....lay that side down and do the same as above but VERY LIGHT.

Now you should be done.

This method is the most consistent for me....henceforth the easiest.

This is how ray Hammond showed me about 10 years ago. Works like a charm.

And, Am I the only person on the planet that can get ANY double bevel 2 or 3 blade head to pop hair but put a 2 blade single bevel in my hand and I just make it worse? 

So yea, i hate single bevels fornthat reason. Never had any luck with them and never will as i just dont need something so hard to sharpen. I was and am still not sold on any advantage the offer.

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[caleb7mm]

I'm with you TX.