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heads similar to bear razorhead

Started by Sam McMichael, August 16, 2019, 10:26:53 AM

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ron w

In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities. In the expert's there are few...So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind...This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner.  Shunryu Suzuki

pavan

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Sam, when I show people how to sharpen, I go from back to front on all edges.  Depending on the head, i may reverse the head and go from front to back.  I also switch hands and gain a stroke by filing left handed when I sharpen from back to front  on the away edges myself, most folks are not coordinated that way. With certain heads it is easier to file from front to back.  If I am only using a file and going for a smooth file edge, like on a 145 Ribtec,(they love files) I will go from front to back, preserving the cutting teeth on the away side, depending on left wing or right wing arrows. I often like a light serration that cuts into the arrow rotation.  I made a bunch of single bevel Hills years ago when Grizzlys only came in right wing for left hand fletching counter clockwise rotation.  That big ferule can get in the way of the file with Hills, filing into the blade can give a more predictable cutting angle, especially with the 140 grain Hills and it helps to shave a flat spot into the ferule when doing it.  Once the single bevel is hunting sharp i apply a light serration with a file with the round safety edge,(they have a single row of teeth that stick out on the corner) on the bevel side of the blade, which preserves the cutting hooks on the flat side of the blade. More blood on the ground quicker.  Lots of variations work, not something the OP was asking for he seems to be looking for something more ready made, but this stuff is really quite simple.

Alexander Traditional

Quote from: Charlie Lamb on August 16, 2019, 10:39:34 PM
Doesn't look like Eclipse is making the glue on style anymore
Oh I really liked the 145 grain inch and five sixteenths. Have to get them on the classifieds.

pavan

While the subject was in my head, I just sharpened a new 140 Hill. new file, from from back to front into the blade on all four edges, (switched hands), then about 12 passes with a tilted towards me RADA, then about six strokes from firm to light with a jewel stick, then a couple passes on a tight light leather belt, equals a big hairless spot on my left arm, less than ten minutes.

Sam McMichael

I have located a source of a bunch of Bear Razorheads and am working out a deal. This should keep me fixed up for a while.
Sam

blacktailbob

Shot my first deer 1976 with a Razorhead. Always keep a few around.
What didn't Fred shoot with one?

Good info too Pavan
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nineworlds9

In response to OP- Stingers or Muzzy Phantoms for sure.  I use both, easy to keep sharp.
52" Texas Recurve
58" Two Tracks Ogemaw
60" Toelke Chinook
62" Tall Tines Stickflinger
64" Big Jim Mountain Monarch
64" Poison Dart LB
66" Wes Wallace Royal
            
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bluemelonchitlin

There is somebody,don't remember his name,that makes copies of the Razorhead and Pearson Deadheads. They're named Razerhead and Dreadhead respectively.
Revelation 3:20

acedoc

Quote from: Sam McMichael on August 16, 2019, 10:26:53 AM
Who makes a broadhead essentially like the Bear Razorhead? I would like find something with the same basic size and shape. Especially important is steel of the same hardness. There are some really good heads that are so hard I just can't get them sharp. I like Zwickie, but it is hard for me to sharpen. Something similar to the old Magnus would be good as well. Thanks. I did a search but did not find anything very recent.
Zwickey are the easiest to sharpen - if feeling challenged get a KME ! That will keep you happy even for the stingers and almost all your flat blades. Curved heads like simmons will need a proprietary system or a lansky.
Toelke SS recurve
Toelke Whip
Sky Wildfire ilf with foam carbon xxl limbs

madmaxthc

I used to have a hard time with Zwickey as well. Then I watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCm2thbGoZI&list=PLr4Jyxim-wBYaI1JEN3Fw0cbgG_tE2Dav&index=37&t=0s


That made the trick for me. I still refine them a bit with ceramic rods, but they shave my hair before that.

I spent hours with diamond stones, using a light pressure, and for some reason I couldn't get them sharp at all. Maybe I was not being consistent with the angle, I don't know. A few minutes with the file and the job was done.
Sometimes you just need to find what works for you I guess.

Life is short, play hard

pavan

I use the the three river suggestion of the using a felt tip pen for the last few strokes with a file, it helps to know where you're going by seeing where you've been.  I have seen false assumptions when the magic marker ink is taken off, when there is still a ways to go.  When going for just a file edge on a head like ribtec, it pays to count strokes and save the black magic marker for the finishing strokes.

k9bowman

Sam, have you checked out the werewolf heads from Eclipse? They have the same basic head shape as a razor head and come in various weights. They are a breeze to get "scary sharp" and hold up very well.

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