Anyone Tried the New TRAD VANES??

SteveB · June 25, 2019, 02:21:33 PM

Quote from: gvdocholiday on June 25, 2019, 02:08:43 PM
Quote from: SteveB on June 25, 2019, 08:28:01 AM
Aron Snyder and a few others have 1000's of shots in with them now.
They can wrinkle but it does not seem to affect flight even a bit.

Who's Aaron Snyder?

The Trad hunter who approached AAE to develop an off the shelve vane.
He has put dozens of animals on the ground with a recurve the last couple years.
Numerous elk and mulies, sheep, goats, antelope, bear including griz, etc.
A good number of these on multi day, backpack wilderness hunts in widely varying weather - the reason he approached them for an alternative fletching not dependant on covering ot treatments to stay dry.

Roy from Pa · June 25, 2019, 02:29:09 PM

Steve, I took care of your report.

GCook · June 25, 2019, 02:55:21 PM

Yeah the wrinkle thing would put me out.

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Rob DiStefano · June 25, 2019, 04:18:58 PM

it's a personal thing, this non-feather fletching thing. back in the 50's and 60's i used plasti-fletch hard vanes, and then flex fletch, spin wings, and kurly fletch, and numerous others vane brands and types who's names are long lost just as those vanes are. none were for hunting, they were mandatory for target, just as they are today for the paper punching games. these "new" vanes are prolly just another passing fad. i'll stick with feather fletches on my hunting sticks. ymmv.

SteveB · June 27, 2019, 07:51:16 AM

Quote from: Roy from Pa on June 25, 2019, 02:29:09 PM
Steve, I took care of your report.

Thank you Roy and Terry!

longbowman · June 27, 2019, 08:09:58 AM

Never heard of them, who sells them?

mnbwhtr · June 27, 2019, 12:02:20 PM

Got some yesterday and fletched up one arrow. I shot it last evening along with my regular arrows and couldn't ell any difference when shooting form 15 -50 yards. I'll be putting some in my quiver for my Oct trip to Kodiak.

SteveB · June 27, 2019, 12:13:29 PM

Quote from: longbowman on June 27, 2019, 08:09:58 AM
Never heard of them, who sells them?

https://mountainmufflerstrings.com/t/fletchings

RedShaft · June 27, 2019, 03:15:21 PM

You guys realize these we mainly developed for guys hunting back country and extended hunts in extremely wet environments. Not really for the everyday just shooting stuff. Feathers are still better there.

Pfranchise · July 07, 2019, 07:53:17 PM

Has anyone used a Bitzenberger to fletch these vanes?

SteveB · July 07, 2019, 07:59:22 PM

I've done several doz with mine. Need to be sure the clamp fits tight to the arrow. A couple strokes on the clamp jaws with a file to level it is sometimes needed.

varmint101 · July 08, 2019, 02:39:38 PM

Yes, used the bitz on mine. It wasn't hard, but wasn't as easy as feathers either just because they're not as stiff. No big deal. Used bohning fletch fuse on them and you ain't pullin them off! I don't believe they're something I want to use for every day shooting. But that's just for me. I don't like how they wear and like the feathers better. Glad I tried them though. I do have some gateway batwing samples I got from them I want to try. They look neat and the Hann-bun kuro thing with dual colors also looks cool.

shankspony · July 08, 2019, 03:41:16 PM

Quote from: SteveB on June 27, 2019, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: longbowman on June 27, 2019, 08:09:58 AM
Never heard of them, who sells them?

https://mountainmufflerstrings.com/t/fletchings

Steve do you ship over seas? I'd love to try some of these for my next Tahr hunt. Even though my quiver is enclosed and made of pic pipe, after a week of extreme wet and bashing through jungle my fletches, even the ones I havnt used are near destroyed. If they work well would be a good option to have half my arrows set up with these.

Pfranchise · July 09, 2019, 10:33:45 PM

Great, thanks. I've got a pack coming to try out and wasn't sure if I should use my Bitz or if I needed a different jig.

Miikka · August 07, 2019, 04:14:18 AM

Hi!
I'm making a half a dozen poor weather/ high visibility arrows and was thinking I'd ask a few questions first.
Is anyone using arrow wraps with these vanes? Is there something I should consider when using these? What kind of glue are you using?

SteveB · August 07, 2019, 07:16:14 AM

Quote from: Miikka on August 07, 2019, 04:14:18 AM
Hi!
I'm making a half a dozen poor weather/ high visibility arrows and was thinking I'd ask a few questions first.
Is anyone using arrow wraps with these vanes? Is there something I should consider when using these? What kind of glue are you using?

Wraps work. Use a quick set gel for glue. Do not wipe the base of the vanew or wrap with anything. Helical clamp works best

Yooper-traveler · August 07, 2019, 09:31:36 AM

Quote from: Miikka on August 07, 2019, 04:14:18 AM
Hi!
I'm making a half a dozen poor weather/ high visibility arrows and was thinking I'd ask a few questions first.
Is anyone using arrow wraps with these vanes? Is there something I should consider when using these? What kind of glue are you using?

Yes, I fetched some up to play with when we get snow (next month

). Wraps are fine and like Steve I used a quick set gel with helical on my Bitz. Mine were the 3" and they were fine off the shelf (hit with my 3" feathers) out to 40 yards with hybrids and ILF. I never got around to trying any with my ASL yet as it takes different shafts.

Pfranchise · August 07, 2019, 10:00:43 AM

Same here, I used wraps and Gorilla glue gel super glue on my Bitz. They worked great. The base of the vane is very skinny so applying the glue was not very easy, just take your time and they will turn out just fine.

shamus275 · August 07, 2019, 10:13:49 AM

I used AAE's glue and Bitz. You have to make sure your clamp is clean and the clamp base is flat. Use a light file on it and your vanes won't wrinkle when you glue them. I've had great results with them so far in the flight and noise departments.

buckeyebowhunter · August 08, 2019, 10:43:29 PM

To me, they seem louder than my feathers.

Anyone Tried the New TRAD VANES??

GCook