1st Tri Complete...Pretty Happy!

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Roy from Pa

#20
March 27, 2014, 11:00:00 PM
All that to stain a stupid bow?  :)  LOL

takefive

#21
March 28, 2014, 02:38:00 AM
Fine looking bow, John.  Really like the strung profile and the stain pattern on the back.  Don't listen to Roy, he's prob'ly just jealous.   ;)
It's hard to make a wooden bow which isn't beautiful, even if it's ugly.
-Tim Baker

Black Mockingbird

#22
March 28, 2014, 06:36:00 AM
Upper limb is stiffer and has a subtle flat spot mid limb

Zradix

#23
March 28, 2014, 09:05:00 AM
It sure does look that way Blackmockingbird.

It followed the line on the tree.
I was lucky to be able to get it anywhere near a usable draw weight.
Got to the point of.."if I can get this thing to follow the line and not have any bad hinges I'll have to call it good"

From what I hear...if that line is followed, the limbs don't have to have the same bend..just no hinges...

Seems to shoot fine..maybe next time I'll do better.
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

Zradix

#24
March 28, 2014, 09:15:00 AM
Thanks for the comments guys.
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

fujimo

#25
March 28, 2014, 09:27:00 AM
very cool, that dye job looks so much like a curly wood pattern. very good job all  round.   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    
this 'following the line' technique sure has upped the game in bow making- i am scared to make another wood bow now   :D

Roy from Pa

#26
March 28, 2014, 10:03:00 AM
It is fine, John.

Zradix

#27
March 28, 2014, 11:09:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by BCWV:
Nice one John! I really like that stain pattern. I attempted something like that on a BBO but ended up taking it all off, mine looked like crap. You nailed it    :thumbsup:  
bamboo is a whole lot harder to stain than the hickory.
...the osage is reluctant enough as it is...
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

Roy from Pa

#28
March 28, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
Use an alcohol base aniline dye stain and you will notice a big difference.

http://woodworker.com/alcohol-soluble-brt-yellow-golden-oak-aniline-dye-mssu-845-541.asp?search=aniline  dye&searchmode=2

Zradix

#29
March 28, 2014, 12:00:00 PM
definitely!
I tried oil based on some boo..lol..basically nothing..
...doesn't do that much to osage either.

I found if you acetone the osage a few times in succession and quickly apply oil stain you can get more color.

I don't like pulling the oils out more than needed though...so it's alcohol stain for me.
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

Roy from Pa

#30
March 28, 2014, 01:52:00 PM
Alcohol stain is sweet, it dries in seconds and can be touched up very easily. Blends in nicely. If you want a darker finish, just keep going over it. If you get it too dark, 0000 steel wool takes it right off.

LittleBen

#31
April 03, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
That came out really nice. I especially liek the material usaed for the tips.

How does she shoot? You going to kill something with that?

Zradix

#32
April 03, 2014, 10:55:00 AM
It shot really well...fast too.
I planned on killing something with it.
..but the hickory let go. I had a bit too much of a hinge in the upper limb a few inches from the fades.

I'm planning another of very similar design...maybe just a couple inches longer.

That bow looked soooo stressed to me.
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

fujimo

#33
April 03, 2014, 11:30:00 AM
you know- just a teeny weeny bit of glass on the belly and back will solve all your problems     :D        :D    

jus a kiddin Roy!

Zradix

#34
April 03, 2014, 12:36:00 PM
oh yeah...the thought did cross my mind..lol

I was thinking a THIN fiberglass back, whatever core, and osage belly could be interesting...someday..maybe..
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

LittleBen

#35
April 03, 2014, 12:37:00 PM
John,

I actually had some problems with white oak backing on a similar design.

Thats one of the reasons I've been moving towards the R/D profile. It helps to reduce surface tension on the backing and surface compression on the backing. Should make the bow a bit safer at a given width, length, and draw weight.

I'll get the pics up soon of one like yours I just finished, I went 60" long and 1.75" wide for a draw of only 25" and 45#.

I figure the few FPS I'd lose going wider is well worth the gain in safety. Since a wider bow takes less set, it's probably almost a wash in terms of speed.

LittleBen

#36
April 03, 2014, 12:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
oh yeah...the thought did cross my mind..lol

I was thinking a THIN fiberglass back, whatever core, and osage belly could be interesting...someday..maybe..
John  did the bow explode or just lift a splinter?

if it just lifted a splinter you might be able to save it with a bit of flax fiber on the back.

Zradix

#37
April 03, 2014, 01:13:00 PM
cracked across grain from almost the edge to 1/3 the limb width.

Thought it was shallow.
Opened it up a bit with a stringer.
Filled/pressed in super glue.
Relaxed the bow..lots of glue oozed out..so I figured I got it pretty good.

about 12 hrs later I gently started pulling it back a little and relaxing..little more ..relaxing..etc.

got about 1/2 draw and kapow..3-4" each way and down into the core..

..she's pretty much toast.

Good idea though Ben..Thank you.
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear

fujimo

#38
April 03, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
man!! you are one resilient SOG!!
ya just dont quit- do you...
good on ya!!!  :)    :)

Zradix

#39
April 03, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
won't quit till my wallet or hands give out..right now my hands are    :deadhorse:  outta my wallet..
If some animals are good at hunting and others are suitable for hunting, then the Gods must clearly smile on hunting.~Aristotle

..there's more fun in hunting with the handicap of the bow than there is in hunting with the sureness of the gun.~ F.Bear
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