My new arrows (edited with PICs of materials)

[KellyG]

Some assembly required. Thanks to Pat I get a chance to try making my own arrows. He gave me shoots, feathers, and sinew. This is great on many accounts. One I get a chance to make my own arrows.
Two and most important, I see what I can use.
Three I get to see what a good completed one looks like with a knapped head.


Thanks Pat this is going to be a big help. Now to finish my Osage and these and get to hunting with equipment I made.

Sorry forgot the PICs of all the materials.

Here it is.
 

[Roy from Pa]

Have fun Kelly and post pictures.

[Osagetree]

let's see them arrows when you get'm done!  

[Pat B]

We saw what you can do under challenging circumstances now lets see what you can do with all the conveniences of home. I have no doubt your new arrows will be just the thing for your first primitive hunt.

[KellyG]

Pat I hope so, I am getting the bark off them. I have about 4 done. Once I get that off I will work on the straightening and the questioning.

[tenbrook]

What kind of wood are those shafts?

thanks

tenbrook

[KellyG]

Tenbrook,
Pat told me they were sour wood. I used that stuff as a kid to make my sling shots. Out here in KS now that I know what I am looking for as far as diameter and such I plan on hitting up the willows and plum thickets.
Kelly

[Pat B]

Kelly, different shoot material will have different resistance. I have found that maple will be a bit larger in diameter for the same spined arrows and I amagine that willow will be the same.
 Tenbrook, the shafts are sourwood(Oxydendron arboreum)shoots. They make excellent arrows and are tough as any shafting I know of.

[KellyG]

I have them debarked, I guess now to take of them limb stubs off and get to heating and straitening.

The shaft wrench what size hole do you drill in them?

[hova]

big as your thumb...  maybe do a smaller one for nodes.... i think the node one gets a bit of an angle to it , so that it has almost a pad to it...


ill see if i can find a pic of the one i use


-hov

[KellyG]

Ok I have not worked on the shafts just yet other then up above. Tomorrow I hope to get some time on the bow, shafts and cutting these out.



I plan on them being about 1 1/8" wide and they can be up to 2" long not to include a 1/2" shank. All this after I get an AM hunt in.
Kelly

[crgibson]

Way to go Kelly, Looks like a good project, I have been making my arrows out of red willow a little heavy. My best Arrows so far are made of wild rose canes super easy to straighten. Have fun..  Your friend, Crg

[Stiks-n-Strings]

Kelly looks like your gonna have some sweet and sour arras when your done LOL

[KellyG]

I have not seen any wild rose around here. Not like the rose hip I would see in Alaska. I don't know what kind of willow it is here, but it grows straight and I have seen lots of it in places.
Lets us see some of your arrows Crgibson thanks for looking and feel free to tell me where I am going wrong.

I hope I have so sweet-n-sour arrows  

Here is my first attempt at straightening the shafts. Sorry did not do a before. I uses vegetable oil, a candle and I made that wrench out of eucalyptus. I brought back from Iraq, after I carved it down and drilled it then uses linseed to  treat it.


Tell me what you think.


Should I just cut it off just below them limbs.

[Roy from Pa]

Kelly, I believe you want the thicker end to be the point end of the arrow. Least it's like that with cane, so I may be wrong here.. Pat?

[KellyG]

Roy Pat told me that, my question is you can't see in the pick but there is crow where limbs were cut off. Should I just cut the shaft below them?

[Roy from Pa]

I don't see a crow Kelly:) Your spine will be determined by how thick the shoot is where you  decide to cut it out. With cane I pick out the best part  with a  diameter I think will be right for me. But I also want the nock end to be thinner and the point end not real thick. It's like a judgement call, so cut your shaft out where you think it will be good for your arrows is the best I can tell you. Lay the arrow Pat sent you along side your shoots and get an idea.

[Pat B]

Yes, the fat end is the point end. ...and the area where the branches were can be sanded smooth.

[KellyG]

Sorry Roy meant crown, my finger's spell check is broken.  

Thanks Pat that is what I need to know. How does that one look? Should I try to get it straighter or just leave it for now?

[Pat B]

Kelly,It looks good from here.    Look how straight the arrow I sent you. Not very! Once I mount the point I spin test it and if it spins true it is good to go. As long as the point and nock line up in the same plane the arrow should fly well.