Stave problem *(up dated)

ranger 3 · January 08, 2009, 09:46:00 AM

OK, I cut my stave down using a band saw. This is what I found, the limb is 1 in.x 1 in. and it looks like it is about 1/2 in. deep.

George Tsoukalas · January 08, 2009, 10:03:00 AM

What's the wood? What's the question?

Jawge

ranger 3 · January 08, 2009, 10:11:00 AM

It is Osage and is going to be problem? It looks like it is going to be right in the edge of the limb when I start working it down. Will it work or should I get another stave?
Thanks

KILLER B · January 08, 2009, 10:48:00 AM

It might have to end up under weight but kids need bows too. I'd work it down under that hole and see what you have after that.

Pat B · January 08, 2009, 01:30:00 PM

Can you show more pics?...back and side. Sometimes with knots like this I will remove any dody material and fill the void with layers of super glue and fine saw dust. Usually you have to do it in layers to be sure you fill all of the void and to let the glue set completely before adding more. Pat

George Tsoukalas · January 08, 2009, 04:42:00 PM

Yes, possibly it will be a problem. Fill it up, like Pat says, and hope for the best. You could also use a mixture of wood glue and sawdust. It would have been a good idea to leave enough wood around the knot on the width to compensate for it. I assume that's a belly view so there is no way to leave extra wood on the belly except when you tiller leave that area alone. When you tiller try to not allow that knotted area to bend too much. It should appear flat. Jawge

ranger 3 · January 08, 2009, 08:06:00 PM

Yes it is on the belly, and It wasn't there until I cut it with the saw or at least I didn't see it.

shamus · January 08, 2009, 10:04:00 PM

That is a problem. There is not enough wood avoid it in layout. There is also not enough wood to allow you to leave more width around the knot.

You can fill it with epoxy and sawdust, tiller that area stiff, an hope for the best.

shamus · January 08, 2009, 10:04:00 PM

QuoteYes it is on the belly, and It wasn't there until I cut it with the saw or at least I didn't see it.

I feel your pain there. Same thing happened to me on a slippery elm bow.

Eric Krewson · January 08, 2009, 11:06:00 PM

I plugged a similar knot on this bow, been shooting it a year with no problems so far.

ber643 · January 09, 2009, 07:59:00 AM

Eric's example looks exceedingly similar to yours and should be encouraging, at least.

ranger 3 · January 09, 2009, 08:07:00 AM

Nice job Eric, how wide is the limb at the plug?

razorback · January 09, 2009, 08:31:00 AM

What wood would you plug it with? Use the same species or any hard wood.

Eric Krewson · January 09, 2009, 08:57:00 AM

The plug is 1/8" from the edge of the limb with the total limb width at the knot of 15/16". It doesn't go all the way through the limb and stopped about 1/16" from the bows back.

I drilled the knot out with a forstner bit, turned an osage plug plug with the same grain configuration as the limb on a mini lathe. I put a little urac and sawdust in the bottom of the hole and glued the plug in place.

This bow is a great shooter and has been my #1 bow ever since I made it.

ranger 3 · January 09, 2009, 11:37:00 AM

Eric, I sent you an e-mail

Howard

shamus · January 14, 2009, 01:05:00 PM

Eric, you are talented. Great repair job!

ranger 3 · January 14, 2009, 07:43:00 PM

This is the stave after I worked it down a little. The knot is about 14" from the end. Do you think going aroung the knot will work?

bigcountry · January 14, 2009, 10:12:00 PM

Looks like you got some good meat around it. I would leave it, and change your layout a tad to incorporate it. Too bad its not dead center and on the edge.

I have filled one with sawdust and epoxy and then sanded it down. It worked well. but wasn't this large. More long than anything.

Pat B · January 14, 2009, 11:45:00 PM

Looks like you have given it your best shot. All you can do now is take your time and sweet talk her through tiller. Good luck. Looking forward to the outcome. TAKE YOUR TIME WITH IT! Pat

John Scifres · January 15, 2009, 10:35:00 AM

I think it will be fine. I'd get rid of all that punky stuff in the middle. It'll probably fall out when you tiller anyway. I use a dremel with a pretty non-aggressive head to remove old rotten limbs like that. I have done a plug like Eric showed above and it works great. The sawdust and epoxy on a belly knot like that always falls out for me unless I add a sinew wrap to hold it in. Be gentle with it.