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Started by Lin Rhea, February 20, 2011, 08:49:00 PM

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Lin Rhea

I have been in and out of the shop a lot this weekend working on a few knives. While some were in the oven, I decided to forge a blade and although I only took a few pictures, I think it gives the idea of the blade taking shape.

I had a piece of W2 steel that was left from another bar. It was 5/16 X 1 1/2 X 6 1/8. This was kind of an excersize in material displacement, since that was all I had in that bar and I knew that I wanted to make the pattern shown. The pattern is 9 inches of blade and I wanted to get it a little thicker than a quarter inch (.250) at the ricasso.

So, after estimating how much I needed for the tang and ricasso, I started to draw it out first so I could hold on to it better and I could adjust the blade length if I had to. Here is the bar and aluminum pattern before I sarted.
 
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
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DANA HOLMAN

That's going to be one heck of a knife, take a bunch of pictures and keep us posted
Dana
"When Satan is knocking at your door,
Simply say,

"Jesus, could you get that for me?"

Lin Rhea

Here the tang and ricasso has started to be drawn out. In the back part of the forge. I leave it thick so I can handle it and it not be too floppy while working on the blade portion. The size I forge the tang is also a size that fits one of my tongs.
 
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

Lin Rhea

Here the blade is looking rather embrionic with the tip being shaped and the parts recognizable. All that is left is to alternate between drawing the edge down and the length out. When the blade is shaped and straight, I turn it around and finish forging the ricasso and tang.

 
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

Lin Rhea

The blade is very close to being forged to shape with just enough to trim around the edges for the profile.
 
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

Lin Rhea

I rough ground and heat treated the blade after which I got as far as I could on the grinder. This is the blade close to shape above the pattern. I have to tweak the curves a little here and there by file and sandpaper, put a cutting edge on it and test it to see if the heat treat is just right. I have an idea it is, but will always make sure.

There was not much to spare from the original chunck of W2 to get this blade.

 
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

sticshooter

The Church of God is an anvil that has worn out many hammers.

"Walk softly..and carry a sharp   Stic."
TGMM

Toecutter

Very nice Lin, I really like the belly in the blade and the matching peak in the spine.  Cant wait to see this one come along. Thanks for sharing.

Nathan
"To be what we are, and to become what we are capable of becoming, is the only end of life." RLS

skullworks

Beautiful work! That is a looker...and I'm sure a worker too!
'cuz deer huntin' ain't catch & release!

Lin Rhea

It turned out .270 thick, so I have just about the right amount to settle in at .260 or so for the finished thickness. I'll be finishing the blade during the evenings and over the weekend, but I'll bump it up as I go. Thanks.
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

OconeeDan

Thank you for your time in posting this Lin, I enjoy seeing your work.
Dan

kbaknife

I really like that profile, Lin.

Weigh that thing before you remove too much material! I use an old PO scale.
Then, use the metal calculator:  http://www.dwsteel.com/calculator.asp?m1=2&m2=4&s=1

I do that all the time so that when I'm cutting some material from large stock, like DH III's round W2, I'll know how much to cut off for a blade.

If you know you need so much weight of a particular dimension, but don't have that dimension on hand and need to forge it from something else, you can always figure out how much is needed.

Say you want a chunk of steel that is 1 1/2"W X .270"T and 10 inches long, but only have 2" Round stock, then you'll need to cut a piece of the 2" round 1.3 inches long.

Anyway - sorry to go off on something else.
That's just a fantastic Rhea Blade.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Lin Rhea

So what the coversion is based on is weight. Yep, that is a good thing to have handy. Right now, I'm more or less using the eyeball along with some area calculations. This one turned out good, but I like that idea. I'm using Don's W2 also and that stuff is precious to folks like us.
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

KHALVERSON

lin
awesome blade
looks like you clay coated it
do you have any plans to etch
from what i can tell it looks to have a great hamon

Idahomike251

Lin,  
Fascinating! True artist at work. I very much like the hamon.
Mike O.

Steve Nuckels

Lin, that looks fantastic!  Will be very cool to see the finished piece, as we took glimpses along the way.

Karls reply was very interesting and if I were more organized I would do that.

Steve
--------
Potomac Forge

amar911

Lin,

Nice blade. It looks a whole lot better than the aluminum pattern, which is interesting since the basic shape is the same. The three dimensional aspects of the actual blade, the sheen of the steel, and the hamon line all do make a big difference in the appearance. You do such good work.

Allan
TGMM Family of the Bow

Lamey

nice work Lin,   some hammer pics next time    :knothead:

Lin Rhea

Matt, do you mean pics of me forging? I'll give it a try when I get a chance.
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

Lamey

I just wanted to see what kinda Power Hammer you use,  im a Power Hammer fool.

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