New Zwickeys

[cjones]

Terry, I f ya throw Curt and I in that camp with you and Charlie, you can bet we'll be packing snuffers!  :D  Just to be different...

[John Nail]

I like them both, but prefer grizzly's to either.

[Guru]

That's good Chad.....lets do it!!

[Roger Norris]

The hardness on the Zwickeys I have used (I have used them quite a bit) was never consistent. Maybe they have changed something, I don't know.

The Magnus heads I have used are always EXACTLY the same.

[alligatordond]

I used a Zwickey Delta to cut my daughter's umbilical cord 11 years ago. Went right thru, no tip curl or anything. I guess you can say I like Zwickey's.

It's funny how events make us change what works. A guy kills 20 deer with a 2 blade and then has a poor blood trail so he switches to a 3 blade. The guy then kills 20 deer with the 3 blade but has 1 that didn't penetrate well so it's back to 2 blade. We are a fickle bunch.

[Mic']

but... if ZWICKEY made a heavier broadhead

Would they sell ?
        What size inserts do you use on ZWICKEY ?
I am trying to end up with a 200 grain 2 blade head...  
         thanks

[Ron LaClair]

I've always liked a big broadhead. In the 50's I used the "Goshawk" (remember those) a big broad 2 blade head. Then for years I used the Pearson "Deadhead" another big 2 blade. I used Zwicky Deltas with the bleeders for awhile and I tried the Magnus also. I've had good results with all of the above heads.

when I started shooting carbon arrows I used Steel Force and Razorcaps. I had a problen with some of the SteelForce being brittle but they've got that problem ironed out now.

Another head that I used in the past was the "Ace" broadhead and again I used the biggest 2 blade with good results. I'm going back to wood arrows this year and am going to be using the "Ace Super Express" in 200grs. I took another good look at them at the Expo in Kalamazoo and I really like them. I've been using the Ace Hex head blunt on small game for several years now and it's the best IMO.  http://www.bowsite2.com/aceshopping/index.asp?SID=2

[Jeff U]

Originally posted by Ron LaClair:
... I'm going back to wood arrows this year and ...

Why switching from carbons?

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Originally posted by Roger Norris:
The hardness on the Zwickeys I have used (I have used them quite a bit) was never consistent. Maybe they have changed something, I don't know.

The Magnus heads I have used are always EXACTLY the same.

That's the funny thing about discussing broadheads; different people can use the same equipment and have completely opposite results. I stopped shooting heads made by Magnus years ago because without fail there'd always be at least one spot on a head where even a new file wouldn't bite. Magnus II, Snuffers, Woodsmans...I always had that same problem. Maybe they've fixed it? I don't know. It's been a few years since I've bought any of their heads.

But I can't say I've ever had a problem with inconsistent temper or difficulty sharpening on anything I've tried from Ace, Grizzy, Zephyr or Zwickey.

[Roger Norris]

I think a lot of it is perception...I WANT Magnus to be a great head, because I have about 50 or 60 of them in my box ;0)

I do like Mike Sohms though, he posts on the internet quite a bit ( at least he used to) and I always liked the way he conducted himsself.

No question Zwickey builds a good head, or they wouldn't be around.

[Ron LaClair]

Why switching from carbons?

Jeff, I'm not saying that I'll quit shooting carbons totally but Cedar arrows and I go back a long ways, I've still got the wood arrow that  killed my first deer almost 50 years ago.

The last few years I've kind of abandoned them when those sleek slick new carbons turned my head.  I think it's time I got back to the old tried and true woodies. After all a good matched set of wood arrows will shot every bit as well as either carbon or aluminum, and nothing says traditional like a wood arrow. Carbons are tough, I'll give them that but like someone said "they have no soul"

Actually I've already started shooting wood arrows again. In the DVD Masters Of The Bare Bow, both my regular arrows and the Flu-Flu's that I shot aerials with were Cedar made by Paul Jalon of Elite Arrows.

[BUFF]

Am I the only one shooting Zephyers?

[Joseph]

I shoot Zephyrs also, really good heads    Joseph

[alligatordond]

Jason, Funny you mention the hard spots. After my last post I went out to sharpen some new STOS heads this afternoon and had one that my new flat bastard file would not cut, but only on one side. Never had that occur before on any head.

Don't know why I keep messing with the different heads, just searching for perfection I guess.

[Seeking Trad Deer]

I think playing around with different arrows and heads is my favorite or one of my favorite parts of off season time lately.  Don't want to think how much money I have spent on different shafting and broadheads the last couple years.  I shoot thousands of broadheads and pick the one that shoots or should I say I shoot the best off a particular bow.  For whatever reason that always seems to be a two blade head of either the Grizzly or the Magnus I.  I had some Grizzly heads but didn't have em sharpened so I hunted with the Magnus this year and was very pleased.  When I hit a pressure treated 4x4 it stuck deep into the wood and I had to crack the head tip off to get it out.  I can't imagine you would need more than that strength for hunting anything.  Never tried the Z's...yet :-).

[John3]

I've had mixed results with Magnus broadheads. Nothing but perfect performance with Zwickey. I also am not "married" to any broadhead, I just want one that works, stays sharp and is deadly. Eskimos are the best i've ever used.

John III

[owlbait]

Been shooting the Ace Super Express for two years. Shot zwickey, Magnus, Snuffers, Steelforce, etc for many years. I like how Ace heads sharpen, hold the edge, are wide and heavy, and fly great on various shafts. Especially my cedar that needs the heavy weight to weaken the spine.

[sbschindler]

do you use the tru angle file system to sharpen your zwickies.

[alligatordond]

Howler, I think the tru angle works great on Zwickeys and Magnus.Once you set the bevel on a new head it only takes about 10 strokes to a side to restore a dull head to razor sharp. For some reason it cuts too much into the ferrul on the STOS. I changed my tru angle files to Flat bastard files from the mill bastard supplied. Quicker cut.

I've got to go back to the Grizzly sharpen threads so I can start playing with them. I guess I'm like Mr Seeking Trad Deer, always playing with the broadheads and arrows.

[Grizz 53]

Dave, Ever hunter Hollow Bend Game refuge. I hunted it years ago... saw a lot of deer.