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Power hammer "Play time"

Started by kbaknife, July 01, 2008, 07:45:00 AM

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kbaknife

I got to play with some hammers this weekend that are just a little bit bigger than mine!
I could take my 1 inch steel, give it a good heat for about 2 feet of it, swing over to the 500 pound Chambersburg and knock it down to about .300" X 2", then jump over to the 200 pound Chambersburg and flatten and straighten, in ONE HEAT! Only about 1/2 of the time I would need to re-heat the bar and tweak it a little bit.
Every time I did this I was grinin' from ear to ear!!
I was having WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY too much fun!

 




When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Leftieshot

Thats impressive!!  Where do you even buy a machine like that and how much do they cost?

kbaknife

I thin he told me the big green one was a 1950 that he got in Missouri, and the smaller one was a 1913. Not sure where he got that. The green one ran about $10,000.00.
As well, they were both steam machines, re-ported for air.
It takes a big Sulair deisel compressor - another 5 grand - and a 2000 gallon propane tank used as an air bladder between the compressor and the hammers.
Quite a set up.
They are available if you look around in industrial steel manufacturing equipment.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

LC

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LEOPARD

Nigel Ivy

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Lin Rhea

It does look like fun.

How bout those legs!  :eek:  
                              Lin
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
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theunluckyhunter

so do we not get to see what you made???  :confused:
anything can happen on a texas friday night, if you dont mind your manners you dont mind a fight

tippit

Those hammers must not be crunching the steel...no burn marks on your legs  ;)  Pretty cool set up...tippit
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kbaknife

QuoteOriginally posted by Lin Rhea:
It does look like fun.

How bout those legs!   :eek:  
                              Lin
I didn't think you'd notice.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

kbaknife

QuoteOriginally posted by theunluckyhunter:
so do we not get to see what you made???   :confused:  
All I actually made was steel in a dimension that I could take back home and then work with my 50 pound Little Giant.
I use my friend's hammers here to reduce my 1" stuff down to about 1/3 of an inch by about 2 inches, and then take it home.
I like forging from large stock because I can make anything I want!
I've been pretty busy since the Blade Show, so I'll have something to post in a week or so.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Lin Rhea

Karl,
      When you reduce the 1 inch square, do you start by forging on the bias? One corner up and one corner down and re-square (OK, rectangle)it? Or do you run it through the die parallel? That is, to get it to .300 X 2 inch?
                                    Lin
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

kbaknife

I just run it flat. Need to sort of consider the size of those dies on the Green Monster. They are a slightly radiused drawing die. It actually knocks it down wider than 2 inches on the first go around. Then I take it to the 200 and flatten and "tweak" to my chosen size. In that bottom picture you can see I'm knocking it down to about 2 inches.
I've smashed it down to about .270 on the first go-around and had much wider than 2 inches.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

theunluckyhunter

that's some AWESOME equipment your working with. does your friend forge knives with them?
anything can happen on a texas friday night, if you dont mind your manners you dont mind a fight

Ray Hammond

Karl,

You look like you are in your element, there my friend.

All you need is a fiery beard and you're set!!!
"Courageous, untroubled, mocking and violent-that is what Wisdom wants us to be. Wisdom is a woman, and loves only a warrior." - Friedrich Nietzsche

kbaknife

QuoteOriginally posted by theunluckyhunter:
that's some AWESOME equipment your working with. does your friend forge knives with them?
No, he forges knives with a hammer and anvil. With these he makes Damascus.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

OconeeDan

Wow, that is some big equipment!
I assume he sells the damascus, and if so, can you pm me with contact info?
Dan

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