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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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LimbLover

Nick Viau
President, Michigan Longbow Association
www.michiganlongbow.org

Blaino

I remember that bow. I kicked it around for a few days about buying it. Look like you got a good bow at a good price! Good for you Nick.
"It's not the trophy, but the race. It's not the quarry,
but the chase."

Hawken1911

Wow...those are some bright string silencers Nick!  :scared:
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Scott Spears Osage English longbow,50#@28"

Mudd

There have been several bows that have become available over the past few months that had me wishing I could still handle the heavier wts.

Yours is definitely one of those!

Thanks for sharing.

His servant, Mudd
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

Todd Cook

QuoteOriginally posted by dougedwards:
I certainly haven't read all of these posts but doesn't the hand shock bother any of you guys?

I will be receiving an Owl tomorrow but hand shock is my only reservation.

Do you just get used to it?

Doug
I would say yes, you get used to it. I don't particularly notice it unless I shoot a recurve or a hybrid for a couple of days. When I go back to the straight bow I notice the shock for a few shots. I shoot a pretty heavy arrow so it soaks up most of it.

Butch Speer

Doug,
IMO, a decent weight arrow & proper grip on the bow will make them shoot smooth.  The heel of the hand should be down on the grip. If you shoot it like a recurve, medium to high wrist, it won't be pleasant to shoot. Longbows are the most pleasant, forgiving & quiet bows ever made. They are a pure joy!
God Bless

Butch the Yard Gnome

67 Bear Kodiak Hunter 58" 48@28
73 Bear Grizzly 58" 47@ 28
74 Bear Kodiak Hunter 45@28
Shakespeare Necedah 58" 45@28

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LimbLover

QuoteOriginally posted by Hawken1911:
Wow...those are some bright string silencers Nick!   :scared:  
That was for autism awareness. Got some camo on there now.      :thumbsup:
Nick Viau
President, Michigan Longbow Association
www.michiganlongbow.org

Mudd

This thread has become more like a good book in that it is fun to thumb back through and re-read portions of it or just browse the photos.

Thanks everyone who participates, thus making it what it is!!

God bless,Mudd
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

LimbLover

QuoteOriginally posted by Mudd:
There have been several bows that have become available over the past few months that had me wishing I could still handle the heavier wts.

Yours is definitely one of those!

Thanks for sharing.

His servant, Mudd
I have got a slew of 50#-55# bows Mudd. I realized I wasn't drawing with my back and can now handle weights up to 80#. It happened quickly. I've never shot better.
Nick Viau
President, Michigan Longbow Association
www.michiganlongbow.org

Ifrit617

Yeah if I could handle 75# I would have bought that one for sure! Great looking bow!

Jon
Quinn Comet 40#@30"

False Cast

Does anyone have any good hunting pictures featuring their Hill-style bows? I'd love to see them!

Brazos

Hand shock talk has always mystified me as I just do not find it an issue.  I have a couple HHA bows that don't have any noticeable hand shock no matter how I hold them.  I did get a new Dave Johnson this past spring that has a little but once I figured out how to hold it no issues.  I would not let hand shock scare you if that is holding you back.  That said back in the early 90's I decided I wanted a LB.  There was a store in town with a new Martin ML-10 on the wall.  It was LH and 70#.  First LH longbow I had seen and went with the intent to buy.  The people at the store struggled but finally got it strung so I could try it.  I shot that thing and it felt like grabbing an electric fence.  I left the store w/o the bow.  Around 1999 I decided to take another try at the LB and bought a new Wesley Special and never had an issue.

moebow

I agree Brazos!  I have a 50# ML 10 that will "light up your life."  Not counting that bow I have 14 Hill style bows that are smooth as glass BUT that ML 10 is the 454 Casull of longbows.

Arne
11 H Hill bows
3 David Miller bows
4 James Berry bows
USA Archery, Level 4 NTS Coach

Are you willing to give up what you are; to become what you could be?

khardrunner

I wonder if there are limb timing issues with the ML-10 since they are so inexpensive. Perhaps they are put together quickly without concern for fine tuning.
I Corinthians 9 24-25
...run in such a way so as to obtain the prize!

LimbLover

QuoteOriginally posted by LimbLover:
Here's a closer look.

   
Not to interrupt your convo, but I put a new grip on this one tonight and am really liking the results.

 

And here is a photo of the grip now that it is dry and has a layer of pitch blend.


I'm pretty happy with the job. Probably the best one I've ever cut but still working on it.
Nick Viau
President, Michigan Longbow Association
www.michiganlongbow.org

mikebiz

I'm a firm believer that "hand shock" is an artifact of gripping this type of bow improperly.  Sure there are probably poorly constructed Hill-style bows out there that would rattle your teeth regardless of your grip, but a properly built bow shouldn't cause any issues.  There's a lot of info here about proper grip.  Also look at photos of Howard, John Schulz, Bob Swinehart, etc. shooting these bows.  You can learn a lot from a picture.  Check out the pics in these links:



"...and last of all I leave to you the thrill of life and the joy of youth that throbs a moment in a well bent bow, then leaps forth in the flight of an arrow." - Saxton Pope

Rossco7002

I agree. These bows do feel 'different' in the hand than a reserve or D/R bow but not at all unpleasant.

If its so bad that you would describe the feeling as 'shock' then there is something wrong with the bow or the shooter is holding it WAY wrong.

I love that gentle pulse in the hand at the shot, it's part of the whole appeal and let's you know the arrows on its way! :-)
HHA Half Breed 52@28
David Miller 'Old Tom' - coming soon
John Schulz American Longbow 65@28
David Miller 'The Expedition' 55@26

Goshawkin

QuoteOriginally posted by moebow:
that ML 10 is the 454 Casull of longbows.
:biglaugh:

Lambow

The tiller on the ML-10 was "whip ended"
It made for a little faster arrow... but was paid for in hand shock.

This old Zebra Grevy, Hill style longbow I've been shooting here lately, seems to have less hand shock, than most any of the Hill style bows I've shot in the past.

Take note of Hill's botom two fingers on the grip.... they have more pressure, while the  thumb and top two finger are more relaxed.
I tend to relax all my fingers on the back of the bow, with a loose but firm grip.

Charlie Lamb

False cast wanted to see some hunting pics...
           
Hunt Sharp

Charlie

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