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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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Ron Roehrick

Nick I have a Timberline longbow that's marked "Midas" on the bottom limb and Timberline longbows on the top limb and its 66" long and has 3 lams of yew with brown glass on the belly and clear glass on the face. Its 52lbs at 26" and is very quick. It has a locator grip with is not my favorite but I shoot it well. Really too bad he quit making bows all his models seem to be very well made. Ron.

Goshawkin

Hi Ron, Cool,never seen one before. Yep,I wish he was still building them,I'd love to have one (or 6!  :D  ) made exactly how I want it. I have one with a locator grip,not my favorite either.It's pretty shallow,so it's not that bad.
Post some pics if you get a chance,I'd like to see it. Nick

Ron Roehrick


Trad Longbow Joe

Here is a sample of what was in the tube:

Ron Roehrick

Joe congratulations, that's a beauty it looks to be a Miller Old Tom and that will be one smooth shooting longbow. I have an early 66"er myself with the cougar inset and its a great shooting bow. David is a true master of the American Semi Longbow.

Goshawkin


John McCreary

All you guys using FF strings, what sort do you use? 10-12 strand w/ B-50 padding on the string loops? I've always used B-50 and considering the change. My Wesley is 46@29" but I pull it 30-1/2".

John
Who ever called this the "Golden Years" never lived this long...

Overspined

I've been shooting Hill bows with either Dacron or skinny 450+, or skinny FF.  Dacron is just plain smooth and whisper quiet, the skinny strings add FPS and are still really quiet. These bows shouldn't make a sound really.  I tend to use the 450+ 6 strand with padded loops, I make my strings so I play with them a bit. When I'm building the bows I use Dacron, I can't deny how nice Dacron feels, but like the added performance as I generally shoot lighter draw weight bows, about 53# and under.

Some folks have found if they experience hand shock with Dacron, FF types of skinny strings help reduce it.  I'm of the opinion that something is wrong with the shooters form or bow design, or arrow weight if there is handshock of any appreciable amount with Hill style bows.

Trad Longbow Joe

Thanks guys, this is one of Dave Miller's Expeditions, 65# @ 27", 68" long:




SportHunter

Every time I look at this thread I see another bow I'd like to have...must stop.....   :knothead:

Green

My Bama Classic Elite on the right (courtesy of Greaseman), and a new to me Jerry Hill Wildcat SN 815 courtesy yesterday of Kestimator.  Can't wait for my Half Breed to get here....but at least I've got these two.



Gotta peel off the leather "over grip" to see if that's a nice looking piece of Elk underneath on the Jerry Hill grip.








I'm havin' way too much fun.        :help:
ASL's, Selfbows, and Wood Arra's
Just because you are passionate about something, doesn't mean you don't suck at it.

Brianlocal3

That is my old Jerry Hill wild cat. Absolutely fantastic shooter. The shelve is cut like no other I have seen and just rockets an arrow.  
Only TWO lams in that bow too
JD Berry Taipan (original) 53@28 62"
Cascade mountain Brush Hawk 53@28 56"

moleman

Rob, Ive got both the Wildcat and Half Breed, you will in no way be disappointed with either.
I havent had the pleasure of shooting a Bama Classic yet, but I will!
Very nice!

Mike Mongelli


Green

Yes, the Wildcat's a great shooter.  I was intrigued by the channeled shelf as well.  I shoot 3U and this bow is tillered almost dead even....only 1/64" positive actually, so it shoots pretty quiet 3U.....and I'm diggin' it!

Brian - I'm interested in whatever history you can provide of this bow.  Was the over wrapped grip something that you did, or did it come to you that way, and when did you happen to own it? Any idea of the year it was built?  

Moleman - this Classic has a very narrow grip, and I'm wanting to add some leather on the sides, then over wrap that, but am hesitating for some reason.  This bow is 3 lams of Yew and sends a 13gpp arrow downrange on a very flat trajectory....I've had R/D bows that didn't shoot as flat.
ASL's, Selfbows, and Wood Arra's
Just because you are passionate about something, doesn't mean you don't suck at it.

Brianlocal3

Rob,

I do not know the whole history of the bow. I picked it up from *****bay a year ago. The seller had stated he was the original owner and hunted it alot, but had dropped weight.  He had the now made with the locator fro jerry and he is the one who double wrapped the grip to make it larger. That Hil is amazingly accurate bad very very comfortable to shoot.  The year I am not sure of.  
I owned it for a few months but after I recieved my First JD Berry I knew my search for the "perfect" bow was over and honestly sold every other Hill style bow I owned, and I will tell you it was hard to let that one go, BUT I got it at a good price so I sold it at a good price hoping someone interested in shooting a Hill style would pick it up and become afflicted with the bug as so many of us had.  
Sorry I couldn't help you any more.
JD Berry Taipan (original) 53@28 62"
Cascade mountain Brush Hawk 53@28 56"

Green

Thanks Brian...I'm thinking this bow was made probably early 80's judging by the S/N....but I'm hoping someone may know more than my WAG.  Interesting that you were only the second owner, and yep I believe I'm gonna have to take a look underneath that grip.  Lol.
ASL's, Selfbows, and Wood Arra's
Just because you are passionate about something, doesn't mean you don't suck at it.

kestimator

Rob,

I'm so glad that you are enjoying the JH!  She was very smooth and easy to shoot accurately...but as you and several of my other archery friends know....I suffer from trade-itus and am always trying different types of bows and have to sell some to feed the fever LOL!!  I'm sure the wind will change directions and have me buying another Hill style on down the road.  I've only come back to the Hill style about six different times in my short bow shooting "career"  :)  LOL!!!

BTW...awesome photos!!  Your Bama is sweet looking too!!
Have a nice day!
Kevin

Green

So, as soon as I had gotten some work stuff out of the way this morning, I grabbed the Jerry Hill and an Exacto knife to remove the well worn outer grip.  Turned out it was double wrapped, and laced back into the original grip lacing at its' start, again where it went over the original lacing at the conclusion of the first wrap, and then again at the end of the second wrap.  Here's the reveal:








I'm much happier with the grip size now, and the original leather certainly enhanced the riser wood and limb lams.  Happy, Happy.
ASL's, Selfbows, and Wood Arra's
Just because you are passionate about something, doesn't mean you don't suck at it.

Brianlocal3

You photos were removed, I'd like to see the Newley remoded JH, please repost
JD Berry Taipan (original) 53@28 62"
Cascade mountain Brush Hawk 53@28 56"

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