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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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leatherneck

I might steal it anyhow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wannabe1

We had another decent day of no rain today so, I took the "Redman" out to work on my form a little. Rob had noticed that I was leaning into my shots so, I wanted to practice and try and break that habit. I had a shoulder injury when I was deployed and I think that is what's causing me to lean in a little. The "Redman" is easier to practice with as it is only 45# @ my 29" draw. I shot at about 10yds just keep it simple.
 
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leatherneck

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leatherneck

QuoteOriginally posted by leatherneck:
[QB]
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
[qb] hmmm, i think this was an adirondack?  really loooong fadeouts ...

 


Thats a sweet looki ng bow Rob.
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Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by Wannabe1:
We had another decent day of no rain today so, I took the "Redman" out to work on my form a little. Rob had noticed that I was leaning into my shots so, I wanted to practice and try and break that habit. I had a shoulder injury when I was deployed and I think that is what's causing me to lean in a little. The "Redman" is easier to practice with as it is only 45# @ my 29" draw. I shot at about 10yds just keep it simple.
 
real good "inline" form, tw.
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Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by longbowben:
 
real nice form, ben.
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Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by WESTBROOK:
What a great thread this has been! Lots of great info and Purdy bows!

 
just a real purty winter's day picture!
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Ben Maher

Nice form TW... i have the problem of leaning into my shots. A combination of being blind in one eye , a previously crushed shoulder and too much # as a youngster. I remedied it with reinforcing proper head position ... draw to my anchor...not move my anchor to my hand !
Ain't nuthin better than seeing a well drawn Redman ! Good stuff ...

Great pics fella's !
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Wannabe1

Rob/Ben, thanks for the comments. Ben, I think I might have been doing the same. I mean, moving my anchor to my hand. I also noticed that I am utilizing my back muscles more when I practiced today. Rob brought that point up on a PM to me a few days ago.
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Molson

You guys are not helping the bow disease with all this Hill bow talk.  Now I find myself reading Hunting the Hard Way and Hitting 'Em Like Howard Hill again.  It looks like Craig has a stock bow that's just about perfect.  Hmmm...    :banghead:
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chubber

Rob,that adirondack looks alot like an abbott with those long fades.

Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by chubber:
Rob,that adirondack looks alot like an abbott with those long fades.
yup, i agree, that's an abbott.  thanx!
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Ben Maher

Molson...just do it ! Then you can sit up the back of the bus with the rest of us bad boys!
Which bow are looking at ?
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Molson

I'm looking at that 66" 55@26 Halfbreed with the Ebony Riser and black glass.  Of course the 66" 55@27 Halfbreed with Chechen Riser and clear glass wouldn't be bad either!
"The old ways will work in the future, but the new ways have never worked in the past."

Steve Clandinin

All this talk and no help from Rob and Mudd FORCED me to order a bow from HH,I made a new model a RED CHEETAH, 66", 56# @28",Basically a Hill Cheetah but instesd of Bamboo I got Yew cores with slight string follow .There is something about Yew.
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Orion

Wannabe:  Nothing wrong with leaning into the shot a little.  Take a look at pix of Howard Hill shooting.  He leaned in.  Straight up stance is more of a target stance.  Will lengthen your draw length, but there's nothing particularly magical about it. Do what works for you.   :thumbsup:

Wannabe1

Jerry, it's funny you should say that as I was just looking at one of my HH catalogs, and there is a 3 step draw sequence that Howard goes through. In the sequence, he looks like he is leaning a lot into the shot.

With that being said, I am not utilizing the full weight of my bow at my 29" draw, if I'm not pulling it to 29". It's something I am working to fix.
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Rob DiStefano

i've read that howard leaned into the bow because he knowingly shot too short an arrow.  he even wrote about that.  looking at his height, his overall physique, the length of his arms and width of his shoulders, he could/should have been shooting 29" at the minimum, maybe more.  

leaning in shortens the draw length and makes it harder to use the back muscles.

not leaning into the bow is not a 'straight up target stance'.  none of this has anything to do with 'target archery'.  i played the target game for over 20 years - that and bowhunting are two different animals.   ;)    

but it is very true - do whatever works best for you as long as you have consistent good accuracy.
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leatherneck

QuoteOriginally posted by Molson:
I'm looking at that 66" 55@26 Halfbreed with the Ebony Riser and black glass.  Of course the 66" 55@27 Halfbreed with Chechen Riser and clear glass wouldn't be bad either! [/QUOTE


I'm here to tell you,this bow is gorgeous!!!(66" 55@27) Jason sent it to me to try out cause I wanted to try a Hill bow. The yew on this bow was stunning. It just did not have the specs I wanted or it would not have gone back. I only shot about a dozen arrows through it and sent it back. Then I called in my order. You wont go wrong with this bow if it's one you want.
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Wannabe1

Rob, your advice is good and it worked for me. By focusing more on my form, I was able to utilize the back muscles better and my draw seemed smoother. Don't know if that makes sense but, that's what it felt like to me.

Before, I think I was using the arm muscles more, and this was affecting my shoulder problem. Using the back muscles, made it easier to get to my full draw length.
Desert Shield/Storm, Somalia and IOF Veteran
"The Mountains are calling and, I must go!" John Muir

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