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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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TxAg

I really like the wood combo on Second Chance.

Green

I agree Jeff, the Yew Lams on that bow are gorgeous to look at.  And the performance of that Boo/Yew combo is really something....a hard bow to put down.  Heck, it's hard to put any of them down!

The one named Red Hawk is the one I am trying to determine whether it's a Cheetah or a Half Breed.  The Lams look more like Juniper than Yew.  The serial # on that bow is what's throwing me as Craig said it's only a name on the bow....that he's never built a Red Hawk.  I need to call and ask him about the "R" in front of what would normally denote a Half Breed Serial designation.

 
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False Cast

Lets talk bow length...


So I've heard the formula that says take your drawlength and add 40" for the proper Hill bow length. Does anyone deviate from that?

Does anyone subscribe to shooting a shorter-than-"normal" Hill bow for their draw length?

I've got a 25.5" draw length and my only bow, a Schulz Trophy Hunter, is 66". I love it and it fits me great. I'm thinking of ordering a back up from Mr. Miller and I'm considering trying a shorter bow for maneuverability's sake; especially because I hunt whitetails in thick cedar swamps.

So, what are your thoughts on bow length?

David Mitchell

Green, regarding Craig saying that it's a name on the bow--I have a friend who had Craig build him a Redman but he wanted it named "Tecumseh" and that is the name Craig put on it where usually it would say "Redman".  So evidently that's what happened here.
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TxAg

QuoteOriginally posted by False Cast:
Lets talk bow length...


So I've heard the formula that says take your drawlength and add 40" for the proper Hill bow length. Does anyone deviate from that?

Does anyone subscribe to shooting a shorter-than-"normal" Hill bow for their draw length?

I've got a 25.5" draw length and my only bow, a Schulz Trophy Hunter, is 66". I love it and it fits me great. I'm thinking of ordering a back up from Mr. Miller and I'm considering trying a shorter bow for maneuverability's sake; especially because I hunt whitetails in thick cedar swamps.

So, what are your thoughts on bow length?
I'm new to the Hill style bow, but my Toelke Super D is 66" and I draw 29". I can't say enough good things about it.  I know another tradganger who shoots a 64" Super D with his 29" draw.

I suspect I would need a different sized bow if I went with a different bowyer, but don't have any experience there just yet.

Green

QuoteOriginally posted by David Mitchell:
Green, regarding Craig saying that it's a name on the bow--I have a friend who had Craig build him a Redman but he wanted it named "Tecumseh" and that is the name Craig put on it where usually it would say "Redman".  So evidently that's what happened here.
That's what I had Craig do with my Half Breed...named it "Second Chance".  But look at the serial # above...that's what has me guessing.
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Butch Speer

Green,
I believe that's a Cheetah. Looks like mine.
God Bless

Butch the Yard Gnome

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Mudd

I think Butch has the answer for you.

As always Butch... you nailed it!!



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swampthing

False cast, a 66" backset bow will fit you nicely, better to be a touch long than too short. Your drawing PAST 25" so you would go up to the next length or 66" for 26" draw.  You could go a 64" in a string-follow profile, personal choice. I shoot backset with a glass bow, the stringfollow glass bows don't "kick" appreciably less.

swampthing

By the way how big is your wingspan and chest? I draw about the same.

stik&string

I draw 26" on a good day and I like 64" stringfollow bows.

Green

Butch and Mudd....Thanks for the info.  Are the Cheetah's marked RH?  Haven't seen one yet so I'm just confirming.
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Rossco7002

False Cast - David can build you a truly custom bow to YOUR draw length. In my experience I would choose the following:

Backset - 66 inch
Stringfollow - 64 would work great - 66 will feel 'perfect'

A Miller bow will not let you down if you listen to David's recommendations - I love them!
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John Schulz American Longbow 65@28
David Miller 'The Expedition' 55@26

centaur

Green,
My Cheetah is marked CH, and Craig put the name I wanted on the bow, rather than "Cheetah". Kinda confusing with your bow, but it does look like a Cheetah.   :dunno:
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Mudd

The bow model is determined by the woods that make up the bow.

If you look on the Howard Hill Archery webpage you can read all of the different wood combinations that make up each model.

Usually the letters in front of the serial number lets you know which bowyer built that particular bow.

God bless,Mudd
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

Charlie Lamb

Making a new bow for myself and the materials are trickling in. So far I have the glass (brown+brown), the lams are ground (3 pair- lamboo),waiting for a special piece of Myrtle that should be here Monday.

Should have it finished by the end of the week and I'm pretty excited about it.

Also building arrows for it and it's sister from Surewood Douglas Fir. Steve got the shafts to me really quick. Super nice stuff. I got the short shafts to save money and there's a very good portion of the 24 that are premium... though they all look primo to me.

At this point I've got one dozen tapered (9"),nocked (Red Bohning Classic), stained, clear dipped, cap dipped, crested and two of them fletched (white cock feather and natural barred hens) so far... I keep my fletcher by my easy chair and work on fletching in the evening while reading.
The second dozen is tapered and stained. Will do the clear coat tomorrow.

Made a brand new armguard to replace my "ancient" guard that still works, but I just wanted a new one. Going with a more "Hill style" cuff guard. We'll see how I like that.

Also have plans for a "summer" Hill pattern back quiver, but need to go to the city for material.

 
I just love this stuff!!   :archer:
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Charlie

Bud B.

Sounds good Charlie. How 'bout some pics when you can.

Funny....I've seen brown/brown glass bows mentioned a few times on this thread lately. Mine will have an osage riser w/straight grip.
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Mudd

Charlie if I had a tenth of your talent!

I will always be a fan and am super proud to call someone with your knowledge, skill, and integrity a friend and a traditional brother.

I know that some of what makes us who we are wasn't always the most pleasant experiences but like you, I am also proud to have served.(Thanks for yours!)

Come Monday or Tuesday I hope to be posting up some photos of my latest "Dream bow".

God bless,Mudd

PS: Some rabbit trails just seem to enticing to avoid...lol
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

Green

Thanks y'all for helping me sort through this.  I forwarded the picture to Craig as there's gotta be a reason for that "R".
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cahaba

I talked to Steve (Northern Mist) Friday and he said I should have my Shelton in two weeks. Can't wait!
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