HH bug got me ... Part One!

[canopyboy]

Originally posted by Wannabe1:
Ouch! Not sure spinach would cut it for me. I'd re-sand it and try and take more off if it was me. Good luck and make sure you don't hurt your shoulder! You will have problems later, trust me.    :rolleyes:  

Well, on the yardstick of life I'm only about half way.  I'm generally still pretty fit and my shoulders are still ok. I just need a bit of strength training.  The other bow made me sore a bit at first too, but now I can hold steady at full draw for quite awhile if need be.  I figure this will be the same.

Originally posted by straitera:
62# will sling an arrow pdq. Exercise yourself into fit & you may be sorry you didn't do it before. JMHO. Best of luck.

Yup.  Was hoping to work up to the 65-70 range some day anyhow.  I just was planning on a couple steps in between, not one.

[canopyboy]

Just a new thought though...

Arrows.  Bought them spined for 55#.  They're also about 550 grns, or real close to 10 gpp based on where I thought I was.  Now I guess they're a bit light.  That's about 8.9.  Hmmm....

They still seem to fly ok, but I've still got some tweaking to do. Now I have a better idea as to why.

[Wannabe1]

Let us know how things turn out.  

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by canopyboy:
So you guys got me thinking.  I know some of you pull sizeable weights all the time.  But I've only ever shot a Hoyt 45# recurve.  My new Owl blank that I finished recently seemed a lot bigger of a jump than what I thought my requested 55# @ 29" should have been.  (The recurve is a bit heavy and comes in at almost 50# at 29".)

So I weighed the Owl this morning.  Used tape instead of a clothes pin.  First I checked my draw and had my daughter mark it.  Average 28-7/8".  Close enough for government work.  Marked 29" from where the string would sit in the nock, and pulled until the tape touched the riser.

Any guesses?

How about 62#?  I guess if Craig is a few pounds heavier on a finished bow, there's a few more on top of that at the blank stage and I didn't take enough off.

I checked my digital scale with NIST traceable calibration weights at work.  So I'm pretty sure the reading is accurate.

I still love the bow.  I just need to keep eating spinach!

i'd heard from more than a few folks that hill blanks are a good 5# over the ordered target weight.  you are expected to do a fair amount of final sanding, through a variety of grits.  i suspect sanding is where one can easily get in trouble with messing up the tiller. if i wanted a 50# target weight i'd order out 47#, and do far less sanding and only in fine grits of 220 .

The ones I have have done ended up a couple of pounds over as well.  I gave it then a rounded trap and a narrower profile towards the ends of the limb and left the width of the limb as is near the fade outs.  Rounding  into a a belly side trap and getting the limb width to 3/8" at the string groove will reduce it about four pounds.

Originally posted by straitera:
62# will sling an arrow pdq. Exercise yourself into fit & you may be sorry you didn't do it before. JMHO. Best of luck.

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X2 - My thinking exactly!  I am hoping mine will come in at 59-60, roughly 5# more than my bows are now.  In the end, if I decide to go lighter, as Paven said, it is no big deal to shave 4#...any more than that can be risky depending on the bow.

[Kapellmeister]

'Boo & Yew and Walnut, too!

I finally took some pictures of my new Hill 68" Half-Breed 55# @ 28" backset longbow that I got from Craig a couple of weeks ago.  Walnut riser with a straight grip and laced elk wrap.  The more I shoot it, the more I love this bow!

 

   

 

 

[Rob DiStefano]

real nice, gene - me like.  

[Wannabe1]

I agree! I'm liking the looks of that Half Breed.   :D

[Mudd]

Wow! Yew...and...bamboo!!!!

The best of both worlds!

Great looking bow.

God bless,Mudd

[SpankyNeal]

Darren i've got a couple more weeks left on it I think, but it is the bow Nate's working on right now so it shouldn't be too much longer. You can bet it will show up on this thread, and have one of it's own when it arrives!    

[David Mitchell]

Spanky, when you get done playing with it, you can send it to me.  :D  I promise I'll give it a good home.

[Rob DiStefano]

spanky, what are all the spex for yer new-to-come sunset?

[droz il]

Another nice Hill. Congrats Gene.

Originally posted by Kapellmeister:
'Boo & Yew and Walnut, too!
..... The more I shoot it, the more I love this bow!
 

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Gene, she's a beauty!
         

Yeah!  I really like the contrast between the dark boo and light yew limbs...pretty, and it shoots to boot!!

[Benny Nganabbarru]

Nice bow!

[far rider]

Hey Mudd, what's the wood on your Big 5 riser. I have it's twin at home.

[Mudd]

I think Craig told me it was Paudka or Paduak(not sure of spelling)

God bless,Mudd

[SpankyNeal]

I already listed the new one in my signature (got the ants in my pants ya know) it's named "El Tigre" after the Jaguar Howard took in Mexico. This is a new one for Nate in that it has glass on the back only like the Schulz Naturals. It is 65" long and should finish out around 58@26.5" with brown glass on the back, caramelized lams, and according to Nate, a stunning Myrtle riser.

The shorter length works to keep the cast up, and works fine with this style bow...John liked his Naturals at 64" for his 26" draw. The difference is this one is setup for modern strings! This style of bow naturally has more string follow than a glass bow which makes them even softer at the shot, and more stable, just not quite as fast which really doesn't matter much to me anyway.

I think it's going to do a great job of replacing my Pete George natural that I had to sell last year, and I suspect that it's going to be even better!      

David, this one won't work for you beautiful people...the shelf is on the wrong side!  

[Owlmagnet]

I currently own and enjoy a pair of 66" Wesley Specials, one with backset, the other with string follow.  Love'em.  I am getting inspired by Dick Wrightman's fondness for the shelfless, shoot off the knuckle, HH longbow.  I assume I would have to drop the spine of my spruce shafts five or ten pounds to get around the riser.  Anybody else working with a shelfless Hill?  If so, how's it working for ya?  Thanks, guys--I've been lovin' this thread.