So called "instinctive" vs conscious aiming

[curlis]

Bill,

Not qualified my butt!

[Kingstaken]

[Jerry Jeffer]

It's the whole hand / eye coordination thing. Or, maybe it's The Force. I seem to have to work at it more then others.

[tamure]

Nice, thanks for the videos guys. Howard was a jedi of archery, that's for sure.
Kingstaken, your boy looks like he has good form. Such a serious look on his face! Love to see kids like that. The pic at the top of this forum is my all-time fav. Since I don't have any kids, I may have to go borrow some for 4H archery or something.

I haven't figured a lightsource for my target yet, hence no holes in the wall yet. I think I'm just going to rig up an LED with a battery and a couple resisters.

[Terry Green]

Yeah....OK Kingstaken........then here's just a normal regular o'l guy doing it the same way every time that doesn't stop moving either....

 Joe Smo

[Terry Green]

Oh.....and who says you 'have' to do it the same way everytime???

 Versatility of the Trad Bow

[Kingstaken]

Terry thanks for clips.
Who was that Joe Smo????
LQQked more like Terry Super Shooter to me...Nice shooting!!???  

[traditional beagle]

The brothers Wensel have argued about this before. I believe Barry claims to shoot instinctive and Gene tells Barry that there is no way you can shoot and not see the arrow in your side vision, therefore making it impossible to be completely instinctive. As far as I know they are still arguing.

[Terry Green]

My hood is in plane site every time I drive my truck....but I don't 'see' the hood, or look at the hood.  If all I did was look at the hood, I'd soon crash.   :D

[Kingstaken]

I'm just amazed to where it blows my mind that no matter what site you visit, Tradgang being the BEST by far, many make the arguement that noone can shoot instinctively.

I feel it's really time for archers to grow up and move on with their shooting thier way.

And should anyone ask the question "How to instinctively" or "How to gap shoot, that only responsives answers be permitted.

[Terry Green]

So many non-instinctive shooters get all caught up on the instinctive 'label'.  What was told from guys 'back in the day' that the subconsious method of aiming was called instinctive because it SEEMED 'instinctive like', and was never meant to mean the direct literal meaning of the word.

Of course no one is born shooting bull eyes at 30 yards straight from birth....but is a learned performance through practice of hand and eye coordination to the point where it is instictive like by letting the subconscious run the shot.

I don't give a rip how anyone aims, I've hunted with a lot of people, and 'how do you aim' is a question I dont ever remember asking them.  Of course there is discussion around the campfire at times of people inquiring, but the guys I hunt with could care less how each of us aim, or what its 'labeled'.  Its all really not worth the time and effort to argue over it obsessively like some people do.  I'd just rather shoot with guys and have fun, and more so.......just HUNT.  Lease that's my take on it.

I shoot instinctive, and that's the term our fore father's of the sport used, so I'm gonna keep using it.

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Originally posted by Terry Green:
I don't give a rip how anyone aims, I've hunted with a lot of people, and 'how do you aim' is a question I dont ever remember asking them.  Of course there is discussion around the campfire at times of people inquiring, but the guys I hunt with could care less how each of us aim, or what its 'labeled'.  Its all really not worth the time and effort to argue over it obsessively like some people do.  I'd just rather shoot with guys and have fun, and more so.......just HUNT.  Lease that's my take on it.

Man, I couldn't agree more. About the only time I remember ever asking someone how they aimed was when I was impressed with their shooting and was fishing for advice I could use myself. Past that, I'm not sure why anyone would care one way or the other.

[Terry Green]

Yeah Jason....I know you are a gap shooter, and have shot game instinctively.....I'm an instinctive shooter that tried to 'gap' over a limb once . HA!!!!!!...and it worked.  Be happy to share a camp with you again.

Funny, I was emailed last night that on some other site there's a six page rant bashing over the term 'instinctive' and instinctive shooters.  Guess they don't have anything better to do.

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Six pages? Good grief. Where I'm from, we call that "ate up".   :rolleyes:

[Noelkman]

Terry Green

 

So many non-instinctive shooters get all caught up on the instinctive 'label'. What was told from guys 'back in the day' that the subconsious method of aiming was called instinctive because it SEEMED 'instinctive like', and was never meant to mean the direct literal meaning of the word.  

Your words are as well delivered as your arrows, O'Wise One.  

[herb haines]

i can't gap shoot or use point of aim .just the way i was put together Left eye dominate and shoot right handed . in order to do either would have to close my left eye and loose depth preception .if i try and look at my arrow when i am drawing or shooting the point it aiming so far left that on a live deer facing right at 30 yds i would be shooting behind the animal. so i look at the spot i want to hit and draw and release if i hit an anchor point ( been hard to do lately) i hit or hit close to what i am looking at .---- not instinctive but not using any part of arrow or anything else to hit what i am looking at --- herb

[donb]

Great shooting Terry! How in the heck do you aim to be able to shoot like that? Just kidding. Interesting topic, but some will just never understand, even after watching it with their own eyes! I use the typing example....where a fast typist doesn't look at the keys he or she is typing but can type accurately.(By the way, I type slow and I'm not accurate either.)

[-Achilles-]

Howard Hill was a gap shooter...split vision method of aiming he called it

[Terry Green]

Originally posted by -Achilles-:
Howard Hill was a gap shooter...split vision method of aiming he called it

Yessireee.....and he stated that he made a lot of instinctive shots on game as well.

[keith brimmer]

well said terry never understood what the big deal is any way.i just like to shoot!!!!