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Whats a really good 3-D score.......

Started by slayer1, February 13, 2007, 04:35:00 PM

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keith brimmer

string tracker where is the asa tournment held?

Chris Wilson

"You're either trained or untrained.  When it hits the fan, you will always fall to the level of your training."

String Tracker

QuoteOriginally posted by keith brimmer:
string tracker where is the asa tournment held?
at the only ASA Club in DE... Mid-Del

Tajue17

at least all 8's on the deer size animals for us,, turkeys and little critter targets never have the kills right so we count the deadcenter or head shots a decent hit on those.

my recurve modern longbow average is around 240-250,, selfbow 220-240.  200 is a bad day..  

but I shot over a 6-pointers back this past season from 14yds so 3D scores don't mean too much cause your hearts not slamming your chest..
"Us vs Them"

Bill Leslie II

There is really no way to compare score's from one shoot to another. No two coarse are alike. As For Tom A. ------ He is the man !!!!!!


    Bill

James Wrenn

Bill is right they are all different and many are scored different.Most times if you average 8+ you have a good chance at a piece of plastic at a lot of local shoots. :)The bigger the shoot the better game you need to bring.  :D
....Quality deer management means shooting them before they get tough....

bayoulongbowman

Also if ya say start out with 3 arrows and have all 3 when ya finish that aint too bad for newbie!!!!  :D    :thumbsup:
"If you're living your life as if there is no GOD, you had  better be right!"

Pete W

Most of our shoots are set up by the open class compound shooters, so we get hammered before we even nock an arrow. 30 yard shots at a turkey, LOL is not unheard of.

It is hard to get trad shooters to participate because of the low scores they  have. I think the low scores are mainly caused by poor target placement for traditional shooting, which at many stations means Foam is good.

We need to work with the organizers to set up the stakes for trad so that we can expect to be able to shoot an 8 , not just hope to hit foam, and we can expect more participation.

There is a trend at shoots to not keep score, and some shoots have no scoring at all like the Longbow Safari. This makes no sense at all.Scoring is the only way to know if you are improving, and to see just how well you shoot compared to the other shooters.

The concept of taking long shots and if you miss it's "ok" because you are not expected to hit does nothing to help your shooting.
I hear no score fans say that shots are to close and easy when we get a course at reasonable distances for the target sizes, but I don't see them shooting any X rings. They seem to prefer a long shot that they think they should miss , so there is a reasonable excuse, to be crawling thru the bush looking for arrows.

Hopefully this season we can see some courses here that will allow some good scores to be posted, and even see a trad guy in the end of the match shoot off.

Pete
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Tom A

Bill. I think we all know who the man is. LOL. Hows it goin buddy? Looks like you finaly got that computer running good.

southpawshooter

If you average 8's or better on our courses you're doing well.  We don't score the super kill zones - top hit is a 10.
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Shawn Leonard

The 3-Ds around here are 5-8-10 and most are 28 targets. If ya shoot 240 or better ya will be in the top 3, if ya shootover 200 which I do 75% of the time ya are in the top 10 or so. I would say anywhere ya average over 240 on a 28 target course, you are gonna be one of the best shooters there. Shawn
Shawn

jimneye

In my group we score like this:
a killing shot = 10
a miss = 0
a wound = -5
It's all about having fun
I've hunted almost every day of my life.....the rest were just wasted

tamure

How does the IBO work? I see they have results for all sorts of events posted on their website. But that doesn't mean anything to me, because I can't find anywhere how many targets there are for each of those events. I found the scoring in the rules, and I assume that applies to each event.

Does the IBO have state or local chapters or something? What is a "state rep?" Their website is pretty but doesn't really tell you anything about how it is organized or what it actually does.    :confused:
Directions: Hike, camp, hunt, fish, wash, rinse, repeat.

NDTerminator

I'm going to be trying 3D with Trad tackle for the first time this Summer.  I can say that our local club scoffs as any IBO/ASA guidelines.  In the past I've seen trad stake shots of 40-50+ yards on the McKenzie elk & caribou.  I would guess their average trad stake is on the long side of 22-23 yards...

There are few Trad shooters around here, none in the club (I have my reasons for not being a member) and I doubt they would listen to input anyway...
"As Trad as I wanna be"

"It's all just archery, and all archery is good"

String Tracker

ASA rules state trad is maxed out at 25yds reguarless of target size

tamure

From what little I know of IBO, it seems the local clubs here also pay no attention to those rules (no reason they should I guess). Like NDTerminator, it's not unusual to have some long (40+ in my book) trad shots at the bigger targets.

I just wanted to know where I could find info on the IBO shoots themselves. Like how many targets, or total available points, etc. so that I could put the scores on their webpage in perspective.
Directions: Hike, camp, hunt, fish, wash, rinse, repeat.

Tom A

Tamure

All the IBO National shoots are 40 targets.

The IBO World Championship (outdoor) is 40 targets and the top 5 in each class shoot 10 more targets in a shoot off. If severe weather conditions like thunder storms or lighting come in to play they have in the past reduced the amount of targets shot in order to finish in the alloted time.

Targets are scored center x=11, 10,8 and 5 for hitting anywhere outside the kill other than hoof or horn.

IBO yardage rules are aproximate. So you can have some targets past max from time to time. Also yardage has changed from year to year. For the traditional classes it was 30 yards max when I started shooting about 6 years ago then it went down to 25 yards for a few years and now its back to 30.

If you are looking at past score also be aware that class names have changed over the years too.  LB and MTRD are the same class. TH and TRAD HR are the same class.

Grizzly

In central Illinois, anywhere from 220 up on some very difficult coarses, usually 240 to 260 is required.  Shoot up near Chicago or sometimes around St Louis, and you have to up the antee. I've seen scores go over 300 for 30.

Some of my favorite shoots have been with compounders.  they always mark the 10 or 12 ring and give you a great aiming point.  I always know I'm on my game when I can move up to the trad stake and slide my arrows in close to theirs.

tamure

Thanks for the explanation, Tom, that's just what I was looking for.    :thumbsup:
Directions: Hike, camp, hunt, fish, wash, rinse, repeat.

Double Creek

I don't really care how long the shots are, but my only complaint is that they are not being fair in setting up most shoots.  Regardless of what weapon you shoot, the top scores should be about the same across the board.  For instance, if the open compound division winner is shooting 95% of total points, every division should be shoooting 95%.  What you run into down here at most club shoots is the compound stake is usually at 30yds and the trad stake is about 22-25 yds....  Anything over 70% is good.  However, many of the compound guys will be shooting close to 100%..  That really gets under my skin.  A stick bow shot at 25 yds is equivalent to a compound shot a 50yds IMO....

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