Bamboo backed static build along

tom sawyer · January 22, 2004, 04:22:00 PM

As long as my fingers are the same length when I'm through, I consider my badnsawing effort to be successful. Grass grows fast, fingers don't.

Stick & String · January 23, 2004, 07:52:00 AM

JD, what size/type of bandsaw do you use? Is there a size you would suggest for cutting osage and other hard woods? I'll be looking for a used one down the road and need suggestions on hp ratings, size(12",14"), and manufacturer. Anyone heard of a Cummings Industrial Tool Band Saw? They send me a flyer this week and had a new 14", 3/4hp on sale for $229. Is this a good deal or piece of crapola?

S&S

horseapple · January 23, 2004, 08:36:00 AM

S&S My bandsaw is an older type 12" craftsman, I've had it about 9yrs... it has a 1.8horse motor which is plenty enough to cut osage up to 4" thick, its been a workhorse for me but I know its limits, having a 3-T.P.I. blade is mainly what I use.... the cummings that you tal;k about is one of the taiwany made type, about the same as the Harbor Freight crap, stay away form them... If I was in the market to get another it would be a 14" delta, jet or grizzly, lots have been said about these three, even tho none are american made.

JD

Tom Leemans · January 23, 2004, 08:54:00 AM

S&S I don't hesitate to buy Grizzly power tools. They're great people and their stuff is made to tighter tolerances. They have a 3/4 horse 14" saw for $320 and a 1hp 14" for $375. The 3/4 horse will serve you well for your purposes for years to come. It's the same saw they've been using at MoJam for 3 years. Someone finally managed to break a shaft on it last year but I'm sure a LOT of proper sawing practices were being violated to cause the failure. I'm surprized it went THAT long before breaking.

rainman · January 23, 2004, 10:49:00 AM

S&S, it all depends on how much you want to spend on your bandsaw. Like J.D. said it is important to use the right blade for the job and make sure your saw is tuned properly. The big four mfg are Delta, Jet, Grizzly, and Powermatic. Delta does have one bandsaw being made in the U.S. That is their X5 series 14 inch, cost is $900. In my opinion the best 14" being made today is the powermatic: 1.5 horsepower, Carter bandsaw guides, 4" dusport, and a quick release blade tension release. Any of the above mentioned bandsaw have good warranties, Jet, Delta, and Powrmatic also have service centers in most big cities if anything goes wrong.

Semper Fi
Dan Raney

Sal · January 23, 2004, 03:18:00 PM

Include me in the line of people waiting to kiss you for this great tutorial.

RainCrow · January 23, 2004, 08:30:00 PM

Just a little Okie hint,... JD will give personal, one-on-one instruction for building this for a small bribe.

Who would have thought that a Master boyer could be bribed with something as simple as a plate full of chocolate chip cookies and a TALL glass of premium lager!

Sorry to let the cat out of the bag, JD.

Terry (in NY temporarily)

horseapple · January 24, 2004, 01:45:00 AM

Dang Terry your aways from home:) Just finished heat bending the recurves in the bamboo backing, I hope to do a glue-up tommorrow with plenty of pictures... hello Sal mojamin this yr.?

JD

http://groups.msn.com/Horseappleswebpage/bamboobackedstaticrecurve.msnw?Page=3

Sal · January 24, 2004, 01:59:00 AM

Yes, JD why wouldn't I? I always have a blast. Maybe this year I'll actually bring a bow.

Marc · January 24, 2004, 07:39:00 AM

Very nice JD. I also have thinned Bamboo with a Bandsaw, it's tricky. Do you have any problems with tip alignment and string tracking?

wingnut · January 24, 2004, 10:22:00 AM

JD,

what is the lining on the bending jig made of? And what is the radius of the bend?

Thanks,

Mike

RainCrow · January 24, 2004, 10:42:00 AM

Yep, JD, I'm here until the middle of Feb. When I get back, we're hoping to have another session with ya! Mike and I are planning on bringing Lance P. down to learn to do the BBO thing. He has a starter that Sparky sent him, and ifn he doesn't screw it up like I did my first, then maybe we can show him how to do it right.

JohnBow's also got one to finish, and we (Mike and I) are ready to start another one.

Ralph really likes the one that we built for him. Named it "Woo-Woo". I'll let him explain that.

Later,

Terry

RainCrow · January 24, 2004, 10:49:00 AM

Terry

I would say that how JD shapes the handle area is the hardest thing to master. I always leave too much wood there, and he keeps telling me to take a little more off around the dips and fades. #49 file is a must have!

horseapple · January 24, 2004, 11:24:00 AM

Mike, the bend is just past 90* what your seeing covering the form is another strap of aluminium... its screwed to the bottom and hammered to the shape, which mostly I bent with my hands, I then screwed it to the cut out opening... what I found out is that the wooden form was leaving marks on my selfbow statics when clamped tite while wet, even tho it was smooth the grain would impregnate on to the back of the stave... by adding the smooth strap all was fixed:)
Lance, Mike answered the question very good, altho I hardly never sand the nodes down flat, heard to many stories about splinters lifting

John Sturtevant · January 24, 2004, 11:51:00 AM

Mr. H. Apple,

Great idea on the static build along! Commendable that you're taking the time to share your wisdom.
It would be OK if you took a few days off work next week to keep the pictures coming.

J Sturtevant

Java Man · January 24, 2004, 12:00:00 PM

Nice work JD. Keep em coming.

Gregg

DCM · January 24, 2004, 01:18:00 PM

Dang, I gotta have a form with recurves in it for the glue up?

horseapple · January 24, 2004, 05:02:00 PM

easy Sturdevant, if I take off much more days I'll not be able to harass you Iowa boys at mojam... heres the steps on how I go about getting everything glued up...doing a build along is time consuming, I appreciate the nice words here on the tradgang... I posted this on the *********** and it got lost without any replies.. quess where my home page is set or not set:)

JD

http://groups.msn.com/Horseappleswebpage/bamboobackedstaticrecurve.msnw?Page=4

DCM · January 24, 2004, 05:24:00 PM

I'm not clear on the shape of the center lam JD. Is it like a simple triangle or do you leave a flat under the handle or is it like a diamond? I assume you leave the peak of the triangle to the back side.

Real find build along bud. Real fine. You do a great service. I love that trick to leave the end posts out until you get the centers set. Simple, effective, clever.

Buckeye · January 24, 2004, 05:32:00 PM

Very cool job! I like the center lam stuff the best and the end post thing will make things much easier on the next BBO. I might just give the recurve thing a shot soon. Now show us the tillering process and I will be REAL happy. Seems like there will not be much working limb on one of these rascals.

B

Thanks!