Cedar vs Douglas Fir

[flatlander37]

I am looking for any info about the approximate differences in arrow weight between these two.  The arrow length will be 27" and between 50-60 lb spine.  Forgot to add that I will probably try out the tapered shafts this time also. Thanks, Mark

[Tree man]

It varies of course but you 'll probbaly get 75 -100 grains more from the fir.

[jacobsladder]

I've got some douglas fir from hildebrand that i really like.. I'm not sure the weight difference.

[wingnut]

Raptor Archery carries Doug fir and Sitka Spruce and they are a sponsor of the TradGang.

Mike

[Tater 2]

As wingnut said Raptor archery has Doug Fir I ordered two dozen tapered shafts from Ted and they are some of the finest shafts I have seen in a while and the price was reasonable.

                  Tater

[snag]

The 11/32" 55-60# spined spruce shafts from Hildebrand are 340-350 gr. Maybe someone can weigh their fir shafts and let us know what they weigh...? I would imagine they would be like Tree Man says.

[SlowBowinMO]

My understanding is there can be a wide variance in weight with fir.  If you have an idea what you need in a raw shaft a good supplier can probably hit it for you, but the above estimate of 75-100 grains is very achievable.

[Ted Fry]

The average weight of Fir will be in the mid 400s for a full length shaft , Spruce averages out at mid 300s for the same . You can have higher and lower in a box of 100 of the same spine , sometimes 100+ grains . This is why most hand weigh the dozens. Both Spruce and Fir are good shafts that hand straighten and recover quickly from paradox.

[OzarkRamblr]

Here's a set of doug fir shafts I made for my wife...put on some sunglasses, she wanted 'em bright.  These weigh between 435-440 grains including the brass .357 case she's using as a bludgeon. They're spined 35-40#.

[RamiusEng]

How well does Douglas Fir take stain/sealers/lacquers??

I am almost convinced.

[OzarkRamblr]

Pretty good. The ones I made for my wife were dyed with scarlet RIT dye. I've also stained them with Min Wax Wood Finish. I use the Min Wax fast drying polyurethane to seal them with. Fletch 'em with fletch tape and a dot of duco cement at the front and back of the feather then wrap with artificial sinew just for kicks not because they need it.

[jacobsladder]

Ive had good luck staining my douglas fir... I use the minwax prestain conditioner, minwax stain, and two coats of hellmans spar urethane for the finish... very durable nice looking arrow... Steve

[Bjorn]

Doug fir stands up waay better than Cedar or Spruce for 3D and general shooting..............almost as strong as a hardwood. Doug Fir takes stains etc just as good as Cedar-Cedar looks a bit prettier, and smells oh-so-nice when it snaps! LOL!
I get tapered Doug Fir from Ted at  www.raptorarchery.com

[flatlander37]

Man, howdy, those things are bright!  If you lose one of those it would be on purpose!

[OzarkRamblr]

LOL Mark, that was kind of the idea. The last ones she had me make for her, she wanted green camo feathers on    Needless to say there are a few back in the briar patch that will probably never be seen again  

[Lee Viv]

I got some tapered Doug Fir from Ted at Raptor Archery and really like the way they fly.

Will probably stick with it now that I have shot fir.

Lee