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Title: knaping
Post by: rockcracker on July 24, 2007, 09:16:00 PM
anyone hunting with stone? Knapping there own points?
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Gene Roberts on July 24, 2007, 09:37:00 PM
I'm trying to knap some points.I wouldn't use them,just put them on some cane and fletch them with crow feathers.Just hang them in my room for looks.
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: stringstretcher on July 24, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
Rock, I am in the learning process and have maybe three heads that I am going to mount on cane shafts for this year.  Hopefully I will get better in time
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: tippit on July 24, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
2 bears taken this June with stone!  Check out video on pg 42 of Quebec Quest...pass thru with stone.  Doc

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/1st%20Annual%20Quebec%20Bear%20Quest/QuebecBearQuest07038-1.jpg)
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: the Ferret on July 24, 2007, 10:40:00 PM
Don't knap but sho nuff hunt with them

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/Texas07.jpg)
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Post by: geno on July 24, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
Hey Mickey,

Who was the guy at mojam from AL.  That had a bag of knapped heads giving them out to all the kids
Thanks..How was the museum?
G
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Adirondackman on July 25, 2007, 06:12:00 AM
Hey Doc,

What type of stone was that head knapped from? That had to be an awesome experiance to take an animal like that with a stone head. I hope to do some hunting this fall with stone heads myself.
Thanks - John
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Ian johnson on July 25, 2007, 07:08:00 AM
I tried on my own, but just cant get the rock to break the way I want it to, mabey one day I'll buy woody blackwells dvd
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: ishiwannabe on July 25, 2007, 10:42:00 AM
Knapping is on my list of things to learn. But for now I just collect all the chert laying around here. One day...
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: flntknp17 on July 25, 2007, 02:19:00 PM
Here is one that went through a deer last November.
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/flntknp17/Picture163.jpg)

And one ready for this year....
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/flntknp17/Picture049.jpg)

Matt
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Linc on July 25, 2007, 03:07:00 PM
I knap my own and hunt with them.
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Post by: fish theotherone on July 25, 2007, 03:22:00 PM
fantastic thread! i love stone heads.
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Post by: adeeden on July 25, 2007, 04:03:00 PM
Knap my own and hunt with them as well (where it's legal anyway)!
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Osagetree on July 25, 2007, 06:57:00 PM
Woody Blackwell Head

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/TwoSnakes17.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/Osagetree/TwoSnakes13.jpg)
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: rockcracker on July 25, 2007, 10:11:00 PM
been knapping a while and am now getting serious about hunting with them . you guys are  real proof of the power of stone.
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: ishiwannabe on July 25, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
This thread is awesome. My hat is off to you guys.
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: rockcracker on July 25, 2007, 11:25:00 PM
Think these will work?
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z3/Cancli/HPIM1345-1.jpg)

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z3/Cancli/HPIM1346-1.jpg)
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: 1gutpile on July 26, 2007, 02:29:00 PM
Hey Clint where you at in Ga.???..I hunt with stone ..killed a 143 6/8 8pt last year with stone point, rivercane arrow and osage selfbow...guess he died of natural causes...you can see him and my bows and arrows at ..  www.gutstuff.com (http://www.gutstuff.com)    take a gander..don't let anybody tell ya you can't kill a big ole buck with stone bro..I am in Newnan Ga..gut
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: rockcracker on July 26, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
Hey Kirk i checked out your site.I also saw your buck pretty impressive.I live in Oak Park about 90 miles south of Macon just off interstate 16 and about 15 miles from Vidalia. Were you at the Cartersvill knapin?
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Osagetree on July 26, 2007, 07:47:00 PM
Stone or metal barbed heads are not legal in Ohio. Check your laws in Ga.!!!!

AND GOOD HUNTING!
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Post by: the Ferret on July 26, 2007, 08:00:00 PM
I have taken heads like that and pressure flaked off the barbs making them legal here.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/rbhead2.jpg)
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Doug Campbell on July 26, 2007, 10:05:00 PM
Musta been 12 or 15 critters from turks to bull elk, (check the avitar) with stone now, it certainly works, where legal of course  ;)
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Brent Rudolph on July 26, 2007, 10:19:00 PM
OK, so what is everybodies favorite material? I have been trying to get enough heads done to make this years hunting arrows, but i aint the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to breakin rocks.
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: flntknp17 on July 26, 2007, 10:26:00 PM
My votes are for Knife River Flint and high grade Pedernales chert if I were pressed to pick what I thought were the two MOST perfect stones for hunting points.  Both are wicked sharp when fresh, hold an edge well (especially the KRF) and are quite durable.  The KRF seems to take more bending stress before snapping than do most lithics.  I like good High Ridge and Crecent Burlington as well.

Matt
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Adirondackman on July 27, 2007, 06:46:00 AM
Flintknp17 - Where do you get Knife River Flint from? I would like to get some and try to knapp a head for hunting.Thanks
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: kyle on July 27, 2007, 07:26:00 AM
Those certainly look like they'll work Clint.  I'm impressed with the knapped field point  ;)  lol.  Kirk's good people.  I hunted with him and if he's still got that honey hole in the middle of the rat race, maybe you can talk him into takin ya.  You WON'T believe it.  

Stone works, don't let anyone tell you it don't.  If it didn't, none of us would be here since its all our ancestors had.  

Even a clunky, ugly, head can work OK if you get it hafted where the arrow spins good and true.

Y'all take care.

kyle
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: NorthShoreLB on July 27, 2007, 07:44:00 AM
Short time ago I got a bunch of stone/glass points, mounted them on my arrows, and I tell you hunting with them was a great feeling even if I haven't yet got a critter It felt just great to sneak around the woods with a stone pointed arrow on the string.

can't wait to get a shot opportunity
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: the Ferret on July 27, 2007, 08:07:00 AM
Manny I would assue you have a never ending supply of cane for arrow shafts?
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Post by: 1gutpile on July 27, 2007, 09:13:00 AM
Kyle brother..where ya been?..man I have been trying to contact you...I shot that buck in a tree right where I put you bro..he has gotta be the deer that was making those rubs and scrapes around ya..He walked up from the road where we parked ,right where you sat with your boy by that log jam..I was in a white oak right beside that log jam...it was only a 10 to 12 yard shot...even YOU could of made that..LOL..just kiddin bro..stone points are legal in Ga....Kyle is a pretty good shot ..at least at coke cans..LOL..got a place for ya bro anytime..you know you are welcome here...gut
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: ARCHER2 on July 27, 2007, 09:57:00 AM
Osage,
Man that is awesome, great buck, and all primitive equipment. Now that's what it's all about !
                                ARCHER2
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: 1gutpile on July 27, 2007, 10:01:00 AM
Osage at your request I checked the game laws in Ga...archery requirement are longbow recurve or compound are allowed..crossbows are allowed for any game except waterfowl and arrows must be broadhead type....nothing is said about barbed or non barbed heads...gut
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: flntknp17 on July 27, 2007, 10:06:00 AM
KRF comes from western North Dakota in a very limited area..........so you pretty much have to get it at a knap-in from someone whos been out to get it.  I am not sure if its available online or not.  Its about as pricy as knapping stone commonly gets ($5 a pound) and is the toughest stone outside of some metaquartzites that I have ever worked........but the results are worth it if you want THE toughest sharpest point you can get.  I would get in contact with a poster on this forum named "Knife River".  Woddy can tell you where to get KRF most likely.

Matt
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: kyle on July 27, 2007, 11:37:00 AM
Gut - glad you tagged him.  Bet he got the blood pumpin.  Y'all wouldn't believe the spot where he killed that deer!!!! I pm'd you with my contact info.
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: rockcracker on July 29, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
I like using my local materials .Just seems cool to me to use the stuff the indians around here did. I like FLint river  and coral be.st
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: dorris on July 29, 2007, 06:27:00 PM
i have some indian arrow heads i found will they be as good as the ones you all are making fir hunting ?
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: jake jr. trickshot on July 29, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
maybe with alot of sharpening and checking the grain... itll due the job
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: Linc on July 29, 2007, 07:05:00 PM
Jeff, If they are artifacts I wouldn't use them.They would be better suited to being displayed.Chances are they will be weather worn and all the edges were rounded off over the years.Any attempt to sharpen them will render them worthless.
Title: Re: knaping
Post by: rockcracker on July 30, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
Im with Linc on this one I belive artifacts should displayed.As i get better at knapping I like to go back to the points I've found and compare my work.