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Title: snakeskin on arrows
Post by: Holm-Made on July 15, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
I was in the Black Hills of South Dakota this past week.  A rattlesnake was killed in the campground we were staying in.  I salvaged the skin and want to incorporate it on some hunting arrows for this fall.  Anybody know how I can do this?  Any pictures?  Chad
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Post by: Osagetree on July 15, 2007, 08:09:00 PM
Guru does it!
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Post by: the Ferret on July 15, 2007, 08:53:00 PM
Chad, I did a piece for PA a few years ago on it called Simple Snakeskin Arrow Cresting (summer 2005) if you have the back issues, but bascically here's how I do it. Cut a piece of dried snakeskin about 1 1/2" wide and 3" long and test fit it to the shaft. Trim as needed.  Take some painters tape and rub it on the skin to remove the outer scales. Put it scale side down on a piece of cardboard and smear Tite Bond 2 or 3 on the back (been using 3 lately) and wrap it around the shaft. Once dry I take a sharpie marker and put bands on thetop and bottom edge of the skins.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/snakecresting1.jpg)
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Post by: bowmac on July 15, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
Here's a couple of mine, I give most of them away. Very similar to Ferret but I also wrapped rubber bands around them til dry.
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q271/bowmac_photos/SnakeskinArrow001.jpg)
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Post by: Jason Lester on July 16, 2007, 01:13:00 AM
Dang Mickey those are sweet. I'm working on my cane arrows for this year. I may have to try it.

Anyone got some pieces of copperhead skins they could do without. If I try it I'd like to match them to my bow.
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Post by: Voodoofire1 on July 16, 2007, 09:18:00 AM
Here are a few I did last year to some carbons,very similar to the way the Ferret did his but I used Barge cement instead of titebond and finished them with tru-oil.I've shot them many times and they are holding up just fine.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/voodoofire1/customhuntmaster001.jpg)
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Post by: Dan Worden on July 16, 2007, 10:35:00 AM
Can't you shoot little ones and "tube" them?   :rolleyes:    :knothead:     :D
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Post by: Holm-Made on July 16, 2007, 11:32:00 PM
Thanks guys,  What should I put over them?  I have Thunderbird epoxy or I can do a Massey finish.  I assume you glue the skin to the bare wood.  You don't stain or seal first right?  Chad
Title: Re: snakeskin on arrows
Post by: the Ferret on July 17, 2007, 11:28:00 AM
Chad, snakeskin is like paper only tougher. I use a couple coats of true oil most often but sometimes I just leave them unsealed. Deends on if my tru-oil is still good ha ha. Figure if something happens to it I can easily replace it. I would think whatever you normally seal your bows with would be fine. I know bowyers who put oon snakeskins on the back of bows and use both the products you mentioned for finish on them.
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Post by: gwhunter on July 17, 2007, 11:38:00 AM
Do you think a little thread wrapping on the front of the skin would make it last a little longer?
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Post by: the Ferret on July 17, 2007, 11:40:00 AM
gw I have some that I have been shooting with and hunting with for years and they are holding up fine. Some I have sent plumb thru critters, washed off and you can't tell them from the others. Thread wrapping would be a nice touch though as long as it was sealed too.
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Post by: gwhunter on July 17, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
Ferret,
Experience is the best teacher and it doesn't have to be my own experience.  Thanks for the help.
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Post by: dannyvp on July 17, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
Dang guys i've been wondering this.
I just bought some wraps.
Can you use them as a wrap and glue fletch to them?  :pray:
Title: Re: snakeskin on arrows
Post by: Craig on July 17, 2007, 06:16:00 PM
Been doing them for about 10 years, made a dozen for the PBS one year that auction off for $1,600.00. I use tite bond 2, If I'm going to stain I stain the shaft first and dip one coat of Zip Guard. It's a water base poly that I've been using for about 15 years. I take the scales off first, this makes the gluing cleaner and you don't have to worry about getting scales under the skin. I also wipe the skin down with acidtone. The thinner the skin the better never had to wrap rubber bands around to hold. After drying I lightly sand and then crest. Put a second coat of Poly on and the shaft is ready.
Here some Coral skins that I made:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Cbireley/2coralsnakeskins.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Cbireley/DSCF0088.jpg)
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Post by: Holm-Made on July 17, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
Ferret, thanks man.  
Craig, unbelievable work.
Chad
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Post by: the Ferret on July 17, 2007, 10:29:00 PM
Craig, believe I've said this before..those are killer man!    :notworthy:
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Post by: pronghorn23 on July 17, 2007, 10:50:00 PM
Wow! Those coral snake wraps are breathtaking! I couldn't stop looking at the pictures. Great job!
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Post by: MikeW on July 17, 2007, 11:15:00 PM
Craig,
Simply stunning!
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Post by: kctreeman on July 17, 2007, 11:29:00 PM
Craig, that is too cool.  Look like I have another project to try out this summer.
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Post by: Craig on July 18, 2007, 09:41:00 AM
Hey guys Thanks, The smaller snakes work the best. Thinner skins and smaller scales.
Here are some that are with diamondback skins, footed with black ebony, They have black stone heads on them , but you can't see them. These are the arrows that auction off for $1,600.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Cbireley/snakeskinarrows.jpg)
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Post by: Jason Lester on July 18, 2007, 10:17:00 AM
:notworthy:    :notworthy:
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Post by: TheArc on July 20, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
Now I know what to do with that western diamondback I have had in the fridge in salt since last season. Never got another as hoped to do a bow so this is great inspiration.
Title: Re: snakeskin on arrows
Post by: Guru on July 20, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
Not sure how I missed this one...

I love to decorate wood arrows with snake skin. I wrote a how-to article for TBM that should be in the next issue describing how I do it. It's really pretty simple...here's a few I've done...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/StJudesarrow002.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/Primarrows06036.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/SkinninanArra007.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/primativearrows06-07019.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/Guru39/pa4.jpg)
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Post by: MJB on July 20, 2007, 09:44:00 PM
Guru,
Those are OUTSTANDING  :thumbsup:    :campfire:
Title: Re: snakeskin on arrows
Post by: Craig on July 21, 2007, 12:01:00 PM
One thing that I always do is point the part of the scales that lift up to the nock end of the arrow, so they don't mess up your arrow flight.  Guru, Nice job on the skins. You beat me to writing an article in the TBM. I had started one a couple of years ago and just left it go. Can't wait to read it.
Title: Re: snakeskin on arrows
Post by: Holm-Made on July 21, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread.  I will try it soon.  Chad