Title: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: SOS on July 14, 2007, 09:49:00 PM
Post by: SOS on July 14, 2007, 09:49:00 PM
Had a great day playing with the TD Longbow (named El Cheapo) I finished a couple of weeks ago. "Arrowslinger" made me a nice FF string so I could test it against dacron, and it does make a nice difference in arrow speed. I have lots of numbers to play with, but....I was shooting some heavy woodies right at dusk tonight, first two in the kill zone at 15ish yards on my javelina, then this.......
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/SOS_321/onthelawn.jpg)
:banghead:
The nock on my wood arrows was a little loose, but not bad, on the FF string - but evidently I pulled it out of the nock before I released and I dry fired el Cheapo. Not a good night. Does the Man-law allow a group hug?
The limbs seem solid, I'll have to see if I can recover them and make a new riser.
The interesting part was I went from about 163 to 168 going from dacron to FF with a 560 grain arrow (about 50# draw at 29") and from 179 to 187 with a 425 grain arrow. I don't know if one was quieter than the other, but the FF had a little higher frequency even with the same yarn puffs at the same location. Oh, well. All kind of moot now with this....
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/SOS_321/Carnage.jpg)
!["[dntthnk]"]("graemlins/dntthnk.gif" "\"\"")
Don't know about you, but we need a "crying" emoticon.
Anybody glue risers back together? I've always heard the glued joint is stronger than the wood itself..... But here's my consolation, my last two shots were killers!
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/SOS_321/last2shots.jpg)
Steve
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/SOS_321/onthelawn.jpg)
:banghead:
The nock on my wood arrows was a little loose, but not bad, on the FF string - but evidently I pulled it out of the nock before I released and I dry fired el Cheapo. Not a good night. Does the Man-law allow a group hug?
The limbs seem solid, I'll have to see if I can recover them and make a new riser.
The interesting part was I went from about 163 to 168 going from dacron to FF with a 560 grain arrow (about 50# draw at 29") and from 179 to 187 with a 425 grain arrow. I don't know if one was quieter than the other, but the FF had a little higher frequency even with the same yarn puffs at the same location. Oh, well. All kind of moot now with this....
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/SOS_321/Carnage.jpg)
Don't know about you, but we need a "crying" emoticon.
Anybody glue risers back together? I've always heard the glued joint is stronger than the wood itself..... But here's my consolation, my last two shots were killers!
(http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j87/SOS_321/last2shots.jpg)
Steve
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Osagetree on July 14, 2007, 09:52:00 PM
Post by: Osagetree on July 14, 2007, 09:52:00 PM
Glad your not hurt!
I feel your pain!
I feel your pain!
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: TXRED on July 14, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
Post by: TXRED on July 14, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
Ouch! :scared: Any other casualties?
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: SOS on July 14, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
Post by: SOS on July 14, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
No injuries at all. The part landed just as you see in the photo, with the riser, limb and arrow in the foreground at my feet. Surprisingly, didnt' scare me, just landed all over the backyard. Blah!
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: bayoulongbowman on July 14, 2007, 10:02:00 PM
Post by: bayoulongbowman on July 14, 2007, 10:02:00 PM
that bites!!! mmm
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: kennym on July 14, 2007, 10:26:00 PM
Post by: kennym on July 14, 2007, 10:26:00 PM
Dang it Steve!!! :eek: :scared: Glad it didn't whack ya! I liked that bow,make another riser!
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: mikecc on July 14, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
Post by: mikecc on July 14, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
If the riser was walnut, that could be why it broke. Try actionwood or bubinga on the next one. Glad your not hurt. I purposely dryfire alot of my own bows to make sure they hold up. Never had a problem with using the above mentioned woods. Mike
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: ishiwannabe on July 14, 2007, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: ishiwannabe on July 14, 2007, 10:53:00 PM
OUCH! I feel for you man...
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: SOS on July 14, 2007, 11:22:00 PM
Post by: SOS on July 14, 2007, 11:22:00 PM
Mike,
It is (was?) walnut. Hadn't heard about that being a problem. Was hoping the phenolic inlay would support any wood. It went right through the valley of the grip, the thinnest part of the phenolic - split right there then up along the grain of the walnut. Maybe leaving the phenolic thicker would have helped.
Steve
It is (was?) walnut. Hadn't heard about that being a problem. Was hoping the phenolic inlay would support any wood. It went right through the valley of the grip, the thinnest part of the phenolic - split right there then up along the grain of the walnut. Maybe leaving the phenolic thicker would have helped.
Steve
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 15, 2007, 02:02:00 AM
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 15, 2007, 02:02:00 AM
Ouch, I hope ya can save the limbs. I really enjoyed the build a long. Not much of a warning huh? Shawn
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 15, 2007, 02:04:00 AM
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 15, 2007, 02:04:00 AM
Use dymondwood next time, it will hold up to bombs and even though pricey, it will be worth it in the long run!! Shawn
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 15, 2007, 06:18:00 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 15, 2007, 06:18:00 AM
Good you are ok. Check the limbs over real good. If they are ok then build another riser with a better wood. Walnut makes a good lam but not a riser.Bubinga is cheap enough. You should still put some accents in it to give more strength.
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: OconeeDan on July 15, 2007, 06:45:00 AM
Post by: OconeeDan on July 15, 2007, 06:45:00 AM
With deepest sympathy. Yes, group hugs are allowed by man-law. I am very sorry for your loss.
Dan
Dan
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Slasher on July 15, 2007, 08:19:00 AM
Post by: Slasher on July 15, 2007, 08:19:00 AM
Bummer man... However, I try to stay positive... , Now you have to do some shopping... And you get to build a new bow!!! Lil consolation as El Cheapo looked nice and by the last group, was a fine shooter too...
Uh as for group hug... uh nope... I can't do it, I'll bow my head and give you three pats on the back... and if I run into you.. I'll buy a few cold beerages of your choice and bend your ear on how you make such a fine looking bow that you can call cheap....
Uh as for group hug... uh nope... I can't do it, I'll bow my head and give you three pats on the back... and if I run into you.. I'll buy a few cold beerages of your choice and bend your ear on how you make such a fine looking bow that you can call cheap....
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: SOS on July 15, 2007, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: SOS on July 15, 2007, 09:33:00 AM
I'm over the initial shock, Slasher, so we can do without the group hug! :jumper:
But, I will take you up on the cool beverages if the occassion arises.....on that note, you going to the TBG banquet next weekend?
STeve
But, I will take you up on the cool beverages if the occassion arises.....on that note, you going to the TBG banquet next weekend?
STeve
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: fish theotherone on July 15, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
Post by: fish theotherone on July 15, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
why did it break? the handle looks to be the thickest strongest part!
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: WESTBROOK on July 15, 2007, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: WESTBROOK on July 15, 2007, 10:01:00 AM
Bummer man, nice looking bow. If theres a bright side, I would rather make a new riser than a new limbs.
Eric
Eric
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: bowdude on July 15, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: bowdude on July 15, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
We grow up hearing about walnut stocks and hard wood etc, but in reality it is not by comaprison with other woods around the world.
Great limb lam wood though. My rule - Always multi laminate risers, stay away from wood arrows, and FF. But hey I'm picky and an instigator. :bigsmyl:
Great limb lam wood though. My rule - Always multi laminate risers, stay away from wood arrows, and FF. But hey I'm picky and an instigator. :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Slasher on July 15, 2007, 12:40:00 PM
Post by: Slasher on July 15, 2007, 12:40:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by SOS:TBG Banquet??? When and where???
But, I will take you up on the cool beverages if the occassion arises.....on that note, you going to the TBG banquet next weekend?
STeve
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: dennis rice on July 15, 2007, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: dennis rice on July 15, 2007, 12:43:00 PM
MAN WHAT A BUMMER! I SURE WAS LOOKING FOWARD TO SEEING IT AT THE NEXT HUNT.MAKE ANOTHER RISER IT WILL PROBLEY BE EASER THE SECOND TIME. SEE YOU AT THE BANQUET
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Ghost Dog on July 15, 2007, 12:46:00 PM
Post by: Ghost Dog on July 15, 2007, 12:46:00 PM
I'll hug your broken bow.
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: OconeeDan on July 15, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
Post by: OconeeDan on July 15, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
Slasher, 7/21 at GTO's in Griffin. Details on the Ga page here and on the TBG webpage.
Dan
Dan
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: JEFF B on July 15, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: JEFF B on July 15, 2007, 02:48:00 PM
i am glad you are ok. man i know what it is like it is :scared: take care now. nice bow btw.
Title: Re: RIP, my beautiful TD Longbow ...... do you feel my pain??
Post by: Arrowslinger on July 15, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
Post by: Arrowslinger on July 15, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
Steve,
I found a way to get online here at the beach. Sorry to see your bow. See you at the TBG Banquet.
I found a way to get online here at the beach. Sorry to see your bow. See you at the TBG Banquet.