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Title: Arrow wood
Post by: Stone Knife on July 12, 2007, 09:55:00 PM
I made up an arrow out of laminated birch this thing drops like a rock out of my 47# @27' hill the shaft is 5/16 cut to 29 BOP 125gr point. It weighed in at 725 grains my POC come in at 470+- I like the way a heavy arrow hits and seems to take the shock and noise out of a bow. Is there a wood that is as workable as POC but is just a tad heavier and will perform at my hunting distance of 20 or so paces. I could go with a heavier point if need be.
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: KILLER B on July 12, 2007, 09:59:00 PM
Thats a pretty heavy arrow! You probably don't even need a broad head just shoot em head they should be out cold.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Bowspirit on July 12, 2007, 10:01:00 PM
I'd try poplar or quite possibly Doug Fir...with Fir being the heavier of the two...
Both of which have the added bonus of being more durable than cedar, too...
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Ray Hammond on July 12, 2007, 10:02:00 PM
you are shooting way too heavy an arrow. Why don't you shoot cedars, or fir, and soak them in watco (danish) oil for about a week, it will add 100 grains to the shaft.
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 12, 2007, 10:17:00 PM
How does poplar hold up for straightness? i've always hated working with that stuff as a carpenter because it waroped so bad...

James, i just PM'd you re: Doug fir shafts..What is the spine on those birch arrows anyway?..Kirk
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: WESTBROOK on July 12, 2007, 10:31:00 PM
I just made up some Fir arrows, the raw shafts came around 440-450g. Check out Hildebrand shafts, she says there is a wide grain weight range available with fir.

Eric
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 12, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Ya could also try some regular birch shafts, not laminated. I had some that weighed in around 550 or so all done up, or maple as well will give ya a finished arrow around 550 or so. Shawn
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: jacobsladder on July 12, 2007, 10:39:00 PM
douglas fir from hildebrand is an outstanding shaft..
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Aeronut on July 13, 2007, 08:00:00 AM
Poplar is just a little heavier and easy to work.  Once sealed I have had little problem with warping on finished arrows.

Like Shawn stated, try some regular Birch shafts.  They will be a little lighter then the laminated ones.

Dennis
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: madness522 on July 13, 2007, 11:00:00 AM
I have had excellent results with Sitka Spruce.  They are very durable and take stain well.  I had a dozen cedar shafts before I started shooting the spruce or I would be a spruce only kinda guy.  After I bust the cedars I'll get a large quantity of Sitka's and only shoot them.
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Izzy on July 13, 2007, 11:44:00 AM
Are u looking for a heavy arrow or just an alternative to the laminated shafts.I just wrapped 1/2 dozen ash and the hit like slugs out of my 55lb curve.23/64 at 30" weigh in at 535 or so, raw.
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: ZaneD on July 13, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
I would say try sitka spruce
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Pete W on July 13, 2007, 11:56:00 AM
Don't overlook Ramin shafts.
Good weight, tough and cheap.
I get them from  http://git-r-donearchery.com/  .
I do prefer carbons but for some shoots we needed wood and these were great.

Pete
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: jchunt4ever on July 13, 2007, 03:57:00 PM
I am going to throw in another vote for plain White Birch. With 125gr points and at ~28in BOP, mine are also in the 550gr neighborhood. They are very very durable and I absolutely love them. The only problem is I can't find a source to get any more recently. I got the current ones from Raptor Archery, about 1 and half years ago, but they don't list them anymore on their site.

Does anyone know who carries them?
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: nockhunter on July 13, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
Don't forget chundo (lodgepole pine) 30" shaft 510 gr. Hits like a hammer................


Mike
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Bowspirit on July 13, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
Yeah, but good chundoo's so hard to get ahold of these days...
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: WESTBROOK on July 13, 2007, 05:12:00 PM
Where can you get birch shafts?  Old South Traditional used to sell them but they have went to selling arrows only.

Eric
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Big Dave on July 13, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
Hey Madness where can you get the sitka spruce.Jay Massey used to say they were the best.But of coarse he made his own.
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 13, 2007, 05:59:00 PM
Hildebrand's is my source for sitka spruce. Good folks, awesome matched shafts. Love that spruce! I did just buy a doz. POC that I'm blown away by though. The spruce were 420gr. and the POC were 430gr. With 160gr. fieldtips they come up to almost 600gr.
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Patience on July 13, 2007, 06:11:00 PM
Lumberyard carries almost all the wood everyone is reffering too. Arrows are easy to make and a good way to sample multiple kinds.
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 13, 2007, 07:03:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Patience:
Lumberyard carries almost all the wood everyone is reffering too. Arrows are easy to make and a good way to sample multiple kinds.
Good luck finding tight straight grained lumber out of a yard...i would go to a finish millwork supply first and save yourself a trip... i've been pulling old growth fir out of remodeling projects that date back to the days when they didn't use lumber with knots in it.....That's the kind Bro!
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Bowspirit on July 13, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
If you wanted Stone Knife, you could prolly order 100, 5/16 white birch dowels and get a fine amount that would fly well from you set-up...
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: Stone Knife on July 13, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
I don't want to buy bulk at this time, i don't have a spine tester yet. It's on my want list
Title: Re: Arrow wood
Post by: joe skipp on July 13, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
Barrel tapered Ash. The finest wood arrow I've used. I also liked tapered Chundoo but try to find some.