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Title: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 01, 2007, 11:57:00 PM
Well after hearing so many here sing the praises of the RER bows, I broke down and traded for a used one. I shot the bow this morning when I got home from work for the first time. The bow seems to shoot real well with good speed and is one of the quietest bows i have ever shot. The specs are 60" 52#@29", here are some pics of the riser..
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/cjones/100_1965.jpg)
Claro walnut and Katalox riser.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/cjones/100_1964.jpg)

I shot the first few arrows at 20 yards to get a feel for the bow. Here is my first 20 yard group.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/cjones/100_1961.jpg)
I noticed when i backed up a little that my groups started to open up a little but i think that they will shrink with a lil more shooting. Here is my first group at 40 yards.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/cjones/100_1962.jpg)

All in all i really like the bow and the fit and finish is flawless. Kevin and Sue make a fine bow. Now i might have to give a vortex or an Arroyo a try.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: vermonster13 on July 02, 2007, 12:00:00 AM
Very nice bow and great groups Chad!
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: sticshooter on July 02, 2007, 05:47:00 AM
That wood looks to have some real fancy grain. What are the vaneers? Looks like ya got a real nice RER Chad.Vman are you next?<><  :saywhat:
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 02, 2007, 05:53:00 AM
The Limbs are curly walnut veneers with boo cores.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Tom on July 02, 2007, 05:59:00 AM
Chad,
I believe the hook is set, RER's are a fine bow made by great people.Hope that the bow may be a keeper for you.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: sticshooter on July 02, 2007, 06:01:00 AM
Have you chrono it yet? Congrats on a nice looking bow Chad. BTW Tom hear tell you are coming to WI.<><
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 02, 2007, 06:06:00 AM
Haven't shot it through the chrono yet but will later this week along with my zipper.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 02, 2007, 09:01:00 AM
Chad ole Bud...Looks like you got her dialed prety good. You know that bow shot really well for me at Cloverdale too. you planning on hunting with that puppy when I come see you in October?
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: BCD on July 02, 2007, 09:54:00 AM
Chad-Is it noticeably faster than most other bows you've shot-nice groups-especially at 40 yards. I'm curious-what spine and grain arrows are you shooting? My RER will arrive in February.

BD
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Scott S. on July 02, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
Yeah, Chad, get a Vortex or Arroyo and then you can put THIS one onto the classifieds here!  Sweet looking bow.  The RER club is growing.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: jonesy on July 02, 2007, 11:22:00 AM
40 YARDS THATS A HELL OF A GROUP,man i need practice, thats more like a 10 yard group for me, with a bow i'm familar with, maybe i will see you in Wis. shoot couple weeks from fri. you can give me some tips.jonesy
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: bear1336 on July 02, 2007, 01:52:00 PM
Congats on the bow, RER bows are great, Kevin and Sue are top notch people.

Dave
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Tom Anderson on July 02, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
Where does one find more info. on these RER bows?
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: sticshooter on July 02, 2007, 03:19:00 PM
http://www.rerbows.com/
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Post by: 1/4 away on July 02, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
Great looking bow....those RER's are sweeet!!!
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 02, 2007, 03:36:00 PM
They are at that Fred. Kevin makes one heck of a bow.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Tom on July 02, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
Frank,
Yes, we are coming to the RER source.Met Kevin and Sue last year and will be visiting relatives in Madison and then up to Kevin'a later in the week.
Really looking forward to seeing them again! Looking forward to seeing the great state of WI., its been a long time since we've been up there.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: sticshooter on July 02, 2007, 05:06:00 PM
Tom yep Sue asked us to comeup when you go up. We might might just pull that off. Be a great time meeting you and spending sometime with everyone.<><
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 02, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
Chad, nice bow. Thye are the only bows I am shooting now. I have an Arroyo and it is 54"s and a dream to shoot. I think you will find that your new bow is a bit quicker than your zippers. Shawn
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: shedhunter on July 02, 2007, 07:05:00 PM
oh boy Fred,  .....your wife WILL kill you one of these days>>>>>>>>.hehe  :bigsmyl:    ron
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Rod Jenkins on July 02, 2007, 09:55:00 PM
Nice bow Chad....but mines prettier  :biglaugh:  ...just kidding, but the RER is one of the best shooting wood recurves EVER!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/shooto8s/email3.jpg)
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: sticshooter on July 02, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
Hey Rod nice to see ya post. I see your showing off that stunning work of art. BTW when ya going to come up to Wi?<><<><
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Rod Jenkins on July 02, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
Hey Frank ...I may make it up to WI in August.
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Post by: mqqse on July 02, 2007, 11:05:00 PM
Let me know when you get tired of it!

  :archer:
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 02, 2007, 11:38:00 PM
Hey Rod, I got screwed cause mine didn't come with one of those nice cases!  :D   I love the looks of yours.

As for arrows, i'm shooting easton st epic 500's cut 29'1/2" with standard inserts and 125gr. points. Been shooting these easton 500's for about a year and they are awesome.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: pseman on July 02, 2007, 11:40:00 PM
Nice bow! I've heard a lot about these bows lately especially how fast they are. Well, fast or not, they are great looking bows.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 03, 2007, 02:07:00 AM
The bow has good speed but really the thing that impressed me most was how quiet the bow is.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: sticshooter on July 03, 2007, 06:05:00 AM
Speed is nice but quiet kills. RERbows has both  :bigsmyl:  .<><
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 03, 2007, 09:14:00 AM
that bow is extreme quiet! Hardly a whisper when you drop the string. You gonna hang on to this one a little while?
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 03, 2007, 03:08:00 PM
Anyone shoot the Vortex?
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: sticshooter on July 03, 2007, 03:11:00 PM
Snag1,  Fast, smooth, quiet and abslolutely dead in the hand now your talking votex and a great price to boot!<><
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Tom on July 03, 2007, 03:38:00 PM
I have two Vortex's and like them both, kind of an ebony and ivory thing. One is cocobolo/curley maple and the other is kingwood riser with rosewood limbs. Both are dead in hand and quiet.
Frank- hope to meet you and Shell and maybe shoot some together.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: BigRonHuntAlot on July 03, 2007, 03:47:00 PM
Chad, Congrats on your new Bow.  :thumbsup:   Time's a coming to take some game with her.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 03, 2007, 04:06:00 PM
Pretty hard to beat a Vortex Andy. Just ask anybody that has one. i'm expecting another one in a week. Pics will be posted.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: larry on July 03, 2007, 05:06:00 PM
QuoteI noticed at 40 yrds my groups started to open up a bit  
:notworthy:    :notworthy:    :banghead:
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: featherhorn on July 03, 2007, 07:20:00 PM
man that looks just like my old bow i let leroy steal off of me but i just got a new vortex and i love it recommend them to anyone
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 03, 2007, 07:24:00 PM
Hey wait a minute jamie ....We traded remember you got the Shrew Scout. Stole it ...Ya Right! LOL!! Your Vortex should be back to you tomarrow my friend.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on July 03, 2007, 07:53:00 PM
You guys are making it hard not to pick up the phone and order a Vortex! Fast, smooth, quiet, absolutely dead in the hand...what more is there? Maybe if it would "witch" for elk like witching for water? Now that would be one heck of a stick!
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Post by: Golden Hawk on July 03, 2007, 07:56:00 PM
Didn't we tell you that they are Game Magnets! LOL!!
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Post by: Scott S. on July 03, 2007, 08:29:00 PM
+1 as a pleased Vortex owner.
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Post by: BD on July 03, 2007, 09:48:00 PM
Chad-

Just curious what your brace height and nock point is. Also, does the 60 inch bow feel stiff at all at your draw length. i have a 29 inch draw length and am leaning towards the 62 inch bow, but I'm still considering the 60 incher as well.

BD
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 03, 2007, 09:55:00 PM
BD I'm sure Chad will chime in but I'd say go for the 60". The static tips make that bow draw like a longer bow. Really smooth!
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Post by: troutms on July 03, 2007, 10:40:00 PM
Hey Rod, I bought one of your cases from Chad Weaver to put my Rivers Edge in. I absolutely love the case. Very well designed and tough. The bow is pretty awesome too. It's everything everyone said.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 03, 2007, 11:26:00 PM
BD, The 60" works fine for me and i'm pulling it 29 1/2".. Myself, I prefer a 62" bow but this one is fine at my draw length.

Jamie, Man you sure parted with a great bow. Thanks!  :bigsmyl:   I payed LeRoy back for you by trading him out of it.  :D
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 04, 2007, 08:11:00 AM
I own a 54" Arroyo and I draw just shy of 29"s and this bow is smooth to 30"s. You could shoot the 58"er with a 29" draw, no problem! Shawn
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Tom on July 04, 2007, 08:20:00 AM
I draw 29" on both my Vortex's. one is 60" and the other is 62"- both are smooth and quiet but a slight edge in speed goes to the 60". Never chrono'd but just my perception with the same arrows.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 04, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
Kevin really makes a shooter doesn't he boys. Heck it's even got Mister Zipper singing the RER praises.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: featherhorn on July 04, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
That's Right
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 04, 2007, 11:38:00 PM
I like this bow alot but my zippers will always have a home. I'm gonna rune the RER through the chrono in the morning along side my zipper just to see how they compare. Should be interesting!
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Post by: Golden Hawk on July 05, 2007, 04:33:00 AM
Can't wait to see the results of this one Bud!
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Post by: BCD on July 06, 2007, 04:50:00 PM
Chad-

Any chrono results yet? I'm very curious.

Brady
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 06, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
I bet dollars to donuts the RER is quicker and by quite a bit. I have owned both and I know to my eye the RER was the faster and quieter bow as well. Zippers are very nice, but are not for me. Shawn
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 06, 2007, 06:18:00 PM
i haven't shot the Zippers much Shawn but I'm betting you're right about the RER being faster. How bout it Chad ole Buddy what's the verdict?
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Post by: rabbitman on July 06, 2007, 06:41:00 PM
What was that bet again LeRoy and Shawn???  :bigsmyl:  I was with Chad yesterday when he ran both bows through the chrono.  I'll let him post the results when he gets to work tonight..but don't bet your lunch money on much of a speed difference...you may get hungry.  :help:
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 06, 2007, 06:44:00 PM
In the recurve world 5-6 fps. is a lot. I also know that the testing would be the best Chad could do but ya actually need a shooting machine to really know. Shawn
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Golden Hawk on July 06, 2007, 06:57:00 PM
I'm guessin it was pretty close but i'm still thinkin the RER by a nose.
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Post by: rabbitman on July 06, 2007, 07:09:00 PM
I know that Shawn. I'll let Chad give the numbers.  He shot numerous arrows out of each bow and then averaged the speed.  The RER was just a tad faster but it's also 2 lbs. heavier draw weight and two inches shorter in length.  From what I saw I'd have to call it a draw.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 06, 2007, 07:14:00 PM
I find that hard to believe, as I shot a 47# Vortex along side of a 50# Zipper with LB limbs(I ws told they are only 2fps.than the recurve limbs) and the Vortex was definitely quicker, but I believe ya, just did not see that with my eye to eye comparison. Shawn
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Post by: Golden Hawk on July 06, 2007, 07:25:00 PM
I can be happy with a tie. Both are well made bows.
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Post by: rabbitman on July 06, 2007, 07:46:00 PM
Yes, I was impressed with both bows. A bowhunter could be happy shooting either one.
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Post by: Golden Hawk on July 06, 2007, 08:17:00 PM
I for one am very happy with all of my RER bows.
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Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 06, 2007, 10:43:00 PM
Yup, I have to agree and speed is about 4th. on my list anyway of what I like in a bow. #1 is how it shoots and points for me and #2 Quiet!!! Shawn
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Post by: cjones on July 06, 2007, 11:52:00 PM
Alright guys here are the results. I shot both the RER and my zipper recurve with both the longbow and the recurve limbs. All were shot using the same 394gr arrows. Here are the specs,

Zipper recurve: 50#@29" 62" avg. 197fps
Zipper Longbow: 52#@29" 62" avg. 199fps
RER recurve:    52#@29" 60" avg. 201fps

Also just for a change i also shot a 450gr arrow and every bow lost 5 fps. All the bows shot real well i thought and the speed was pretty much what i figured it would be. I thought the speed was good considering both bows were whisper quiet with the light arrows.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: BD on July 06, 2007, 11:59:00 PM
Interesting-I thought the RER would be considerably faster than the zipper. Was the zipper the standard riser or the extreme? Also, have you shot any other bows at the same specs for further comparison and what was your brace hieght on the zipper vs the RER.

Interesting stuff.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: bjk on July 07, 2007, 12:20:00 AM
That follows suit with my Zipper Extreme Chad...4lbs heavier and one inch less in draw and I get mid/high 190's...197ish.  Mine is braced right at 6.5"...great shooter.

That said...I've owned a few RER's and still have an Arroyo...great bows.  I want to put my 54" Arroyo thru a chrono...she seems extremley quick.
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 07, 2007, 12:24:00 AM
BD, the zipper is an extreme riser.

When measuring the brace from the throat of the grip, both were braced at 7 3/8" on the recurves and the longbow limbs were at 7 1/2".
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 07, 2007, 12:49:00 AM
I have to second what Brian said as far as the Arroyo, they smoke. Kevin(RER bows) told me mine was the first out of the form and for some reason was quicker than the ones that came after it. Chad were the limbs you shot made for the extreme riser or did they come from a standard riser? Shawn
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 07, 2007, 01:04:00 AM
My bow was one i ordered and both set of limbs have book matched veneers. I don't think that it would make much difference. The longbow limbs all come off the same form. Bill just weighs the limbs on a standard riser and marks them and then adds 3 pounds and writes that on the other side for the extreme.
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Post by: Woodduck on July 07, 2007, 01:08:00 AM
Interesting, Chad...thanks.
I think my old Zipper without fastflight will still meet my deer hunting needs.  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 07, 2007, 01:17:00 AM
Thanks Chad that is what I was wondering because I thought when ya went from the standard riser to the Extreme the #age changed. Shawn
Title: Re: My New RER T/D! Updated with speed test!
Post by: cjones on July 07, 2007, 01:30:00 AM
The limbs Bob made were always marked with the weight of what ever riser they were made for. Bill has been putting the weight on the for both risers. It will say the weight and ext. for the extreme on one side and the std weight on the other.

You do gain 3 pounds on the extreme riser. Since i ordered mine with both sets of limbs they are marked for the extreme only!
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Post by: Golden Hawk on July 07, 2007, 03:19:00 AM
so now for the $64,000 question. you keepin the RER?
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Post by: cjones on July 07, 2007, 04:11:00 AM
No plans to send it down the road anytime soon! Now if it shot 170fps that would be different. But as it stands they shoot so close i would se no reason to pick one over the other.
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Post by: Golden Hawk on July 07, 2007, 04:27:00 AM
Well in that case we'll get them together for our October deer hunt weekend. Your 60"49@28 and my 58" 49@28. Arrows of course will be interchangable since I'll be shooting my Excel 500s and 125 grain Simmons.
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Post by: Guru on July 07, 2007, 07:55:00 AM
I didn't think the RER would be any faster than your Zipper....It's great to have a few bows that shoot so similar.
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Post by: Robert Honaker on July 07, 2007, 08:06:00 AM
Chad,not trying to change topic, but do you hunt with those arrow weights. If so,what kinda penetration do ya get?
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Post by: Guru on July 07, 2007, 08:26:00 AM
Robert, Chad should be along soon(maybe tonight). But I know he hunts with those weights and gets goot penetration with thin diameter carbons and Snuffers.

Check out the highlight 2006 and 2007 forums...the boy gets it done!
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Post by: bjk on July 07, 2007, 12:31:00 PM
I've seen some threads, Curt...he doesn't always hunt with those weights, sometimes he goes a bit lighter  ;)

He sure does get it done.
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Post by: Robert Honaker on July 07, 2007, 01:07:00 PM
Yep, I've seen some of his deer posted here.He's hard on'em.I've always shot around 525grs,but Ihave a new bow comin,52@29". I have some 3000 Vapors that'll come in about 420grs.Just wonderin what he thinks of that since I've never shot an animal with lighter than 500grs and he's shootin about the same poundage.
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Post by: cjones on July 09, 2007, 11:56:00 PM
Sorry guys for not getting back sooner. An abscessed tooth has had me on the shelf the last couple days.

Robert, Yes i do hunt with those weights and have no trouble at all with penetration. My buck last fall was taken at 12 yards and the arrow hit the shoulder blade on entry and was hanging out the exit hole by the feathers and fell out when he made one jump. My snow doe was taken at about the same range and the arrow was 10-15 yards on the opposite side of her stuck in the ground. Now i wouldn't go that light with wood but with carbon they will passthrough more times than not.
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Post by: Robert Honaker on July 10, 2007, 09:16:00 AM
Thanx Chad,I'm gonna try that this year.Lots simpler not having to add weight to shafts.Seems like I get into all kinds of tuning issues when I start trying to make my shafts heavier.
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Post by: Over&Under on July 10, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
Good shooting, I agree with Jonesy, wish I could shoot that good at 40 yds, heck even 20 yds!!!!

Been hearing alot of good about RER.  Might have to get me a Vortex to try.

Jake