I am wanting to give the 160gr. Landshark a try and was wondering if you guys has some feedback on them. I will be shooting them off a 47# Pittsley Predator and 28" Goldtip 3555. Been shooting the Magnus 1,1 1/2"cut and have not had any penetration issues.
Robert... I had to go look at the Simmons site so I'd know which one you are talking about. You won't have a bit of problem with the Landshark.
My only experience with the Simmons is with the Interceptor and it does an excellent job. My preffered broadhead is the Magnus I w/bleeder.
Robert,
I started shooting Simmons broadheads in 1990 and haven't looked back. I have mainly used the 160 Landshark over the years, but I have taken several deer with Interceptors (both Original and Vented) as well as Tree Sharks. I have never had any penetration problems with the Tree Sharks, much less the Landsharks. All of the Simmons heads fly great as well.
I'm looking forward to shooting both the 160 and 125 grain Land Sharks this year. and quite possibly the 190 Intersceptor for my fall bear hunt. The people I have talked with that have first hand knowledge of these heads all rave about them and their massive blood trails.
The 190 gr. Interceptor is my all-time favorite head. Flies great and cuts a big hole.
I love them! They make big holes that all of my compound friends are amazed by. Pictures of the the Interceptor and easton arrow that I shot my first deer with and the Tiger Shark and pine shaft made by Troy that I took my first deer with using wood arrows. (http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t262/Brister_2007/DSCF0035.jpg)
will the interceptor screw on to a 2216, some one told me the blades hit the shaft and a smaller dia. shaft was needed... thanks
Dave, you won't have any problem with 2216's....These are great heads. I've shot the 160's for about 16 yrs. and have had great sucess on critters big and small. (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/rickybob_2006/DSCN1189.jpg) (http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k209/rickybob_2006/DSCN1186.jpg)
Wow!That is what I am looking for. What a blood trail and on a hog at that. Anymore, Simmons wound pics like that out there. :notworthy:
No problems with shaft size. I used to shoot them on 2419's.
Here's a picture of what they will do. Sorry it's so graphic.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r100/hookedn21/DSCN2593.jpg
Sombody posted some interceptor damage on trad gang a couple months ago, ive seen first hand what they do, they are like flying hatchets, havent had one that did'nt fly well.
Guys and Gals, I'm not giving the "thumbs up" to take bad angles, un-ethical shots, or the like, but anyone who's bowhunted very long knows that it happens. Personally there's nothing I'd rather have on the end of my stick, when it does. Don and Sky
DW, thanks was hopin to hear that..is that a camoed BW?? I thought I was the only who would do that!! :)
i guess i will be the person that goes against the grain, i didn't like the 160's i shot a pig and a deer with them, it bounced off the opposite rib,and i had minimal blood trail. the only reason i found him was i had a lumenock on and the deer ran into a field and i was able to see the light from my arrow at night.
the pig was never recovered. i have video of the shot to verify the hit. i did stick out the other side so that was a plus. and i had a good blood trail for about 400-500 yards, then i lost it.
if i bought more sharks i would shoot the interceptor or the tiger shark, they have the same cut radius but are longer so you get more of a 3 to 1 ratio. and i would buy a wheele sharpener or the crockstik sharpener.
i think they are built strong and i might give them another try later, right now i am shooting muzzy phantoms.
do they make glue on versions?
Yes; the Interceptor, Tiger Shark, Landshark, and Treeshark all come in glue on versions. The glue on models are a bit stronger than the screw on versions.
I guess my other question is can these be sharpened on a Tru-Angle set?
Also,
bm22 how did the broadhead bounce off the rib and stick through the other side? Would that not have severed the rib to go through?
I've had the ferrule fail on both Interceptor and Treeshark with the screw-in model. I'd use the glue-ons if I were you.
Ian, 165gr. interceptos, $40 for a dozen.jonesy
I ordered some of the glue-on 150 gr unvented tigersharks this past week. I must say it is a very impressive looking head. Have only put one on a shaft, it took all of 30 seconds to get it to spin true. Took about 2 minutes on my paper wheel that I have on a six inch bench grinder to get it scary sharp. Can't wait to shoot something with it, should make tracking in the pine thickets around here much easier.
Treeshark - I've killed three deer with them. Excellent penetration - all three were shot at around 5 or so yards(pretty much straight down) and all had complete penetration. For me, that is great penetration for that type of hit as I don't always get full penetration on that type of shot with other broadheads.
Great blood trails. If you shoot something with the treeshark and he don't go down quick then you made a bad hit and would not recover the animal regardless of the broadhead - IMHO.
I've always shot 50 - 55 pound bows but am shooting 45 pounds this season and will see what the treeshark does at that poundage.
I've also shot at least one deer(I think there were more but can't remember) with the Innerceptor. It worked well - good penetration and good blood trail. Quartering away shot that broke the front leg on exit - no damage to broadhead at all.
In my limited experience(3 deer), the treeshark penetrates comparable to smaller broadheads that I've used such as the WW, Magnus, STOS(maybe).
Try'em you'll like'm.
wheres a good place to buy
I bought my directly from Simmons. Got to my house in 2 days. Can buy off their website or do like I did and call.
I have had great luck with the tigersharks and treesharks the last couple of years on deer and hogs.I normally shoot bows in the 45lb class but will be useing both out of lighter weight bows this year.I use the glue-ons instead of the screw-ins.
QuoteOriginally posted by 12ringman:
I guess my other question is can these be sharpened on a Tru-Angle set?
Also,
bm22 how did the broadhead bounce off the rib and stick through the other side? Would that not have severed the rib to go through?
it slipped between ribs on the way in and hit the rib on the opposite side, at first i thought that i had hit the opposite shoulder blade but alas when i skinned him there was a chip in a rib opposite of the entrance hole. thus it bounce back off a rib on the other side.
now this was pretty disturbing because if you think about it it only traveled threw about 1 in. of hide and meat then threw about 1/2 inch of lung tissue. before it hit a rib, and ribs aren't very strong. i would have thought a 460 grain arrow @ 195 fps would have been sticking in the dirt 6 inches.
like i said i beleive part of my problem was a light weight arrow, i now shoot 540 grain arrow. and who knows it may have been a weird angle or maybe if i was to shoot the same deer again it would have passed threw. another reason i didn't like them is because of the bleeders. but i would like to try the razorsharks or the tiger shark.
Between myself and my friend who got me started bowhunting, we have taken 164 deer, 3 bear, 1 antelope, 1 hog, 1 javelina, and several coyotes, bobcats and a fox, all with Simmons heads.
I promise you, get them sharp and they will perform.
Whole-heartedly agree with Landshark 160........myself and my best buddy, all screw-in 160's, Interceptor's, and a few Treesharks in the mix........91 whitetails, 5 bears, 4 elk, and a good size pile of hogs. I know there is a LOT of good broadheads out there that works great, but I also know what works for me and what I like, keep them sharp and they'll work....I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but these things work as advertised.
Can these be sharpened on a Truangle system?
I am no expert on sharpening these heads as I just started shooting them but I would say you would have a tough time using the Tru Angle to sharpen them. Mainly because of the radius on the back end of the blade. If you buy Simmons heads do you self a favor and get the wheelie sharpener. It works wonders.
I agree.Buy there sharpener or use something round or half round.I have the paper wheel setup and have learned to use it on mine.A bit of a learning curve but sure takes the time and effort out of it.
James,
Do you think to could do a tutorial on sharpening the Simmons using the paper wheel setup?
Doug
do you guys ever get any screw-ins that do not spin straight when on the arrow and show a slight wobble, if so would you still shoot these out of a 51# widow?
Tajue17,
I wouldn't shoot any head that wobbled. Heat the point and rotate either the arrow insert or the broadhead insert slightly. Spin test again. Repeat until it spins true.
okay thanks, I was curious about if it would work from low poundage Vs High.. thanks T