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Title: Massey finish formula?
Post by: wingnut on June 28, 2007, 05:49:00 PM
I used to know this but when a customer asked today I drew a blank.

Can anyone help?

Mike
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: sleepyhollow on June 28, 2007, 06:50:00 PM
Taking a stab in the dark here, but I say 1 part epoxy to 5 parts acetone?
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: John Scifres on June 28, 2007, 08:10:00 PM
I use about 1:4 of Devcon Long-Set epoxy to acetone.  That works well for wipeon.  I tried it with spray and it didn't do so well.  Someone reported a 1:10 epoxy to MEK does well for spraying.
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Holm-Made on June 28, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
1 part epoxy to 3,4 or 5 parts acetone.  Everyone uses a little different mix I think.  The more you thin it the easier it is to work with.  I thin it quite a bit and it allows me to wipe over it a couple times.  I put about 4 thin coats on a knife handle.  If it is thicker, say 3 parts acetone then you can only wipe it once as you put it on because it is so sticky.  Chad
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: SOS on June 28, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
Chad,

Once you mix it up at 5:1, can you save the thinned material in a sealed jar while it cures on the wood.  Will it last for several wipe on coats, or do you have to make a couple of batches?

Steve
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 28, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
The mix will keep several weeks in a sealed jar.
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Cutty47 on June 28, 2007, 10:59:00 PM
I like to go really thin...1 to 10 or more...for a first coat on arrows.  I think I get a bit more penetration that way and the shafts seem more durable.  Then I switch to 1 to 5...
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Steve H. on June 28, 2007, 11:16:00 PM
Th exact ratio isn't real important but use the MEK as JS (now you remember who JS?!) said for better results and spray-ability.
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Holm-Made on June 28, 2007, 11:30:00 PM
The exact ratio isn't important.  In fact I never have measured either the epoxy or acetone.  I just add a splash of acetone until it is kind of a watery consistancy. I don't want it thick at all or it gets too sticky.
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: wingnut on June 29, 2007, 07:10:00 AM
What's the work time on the MEK mix?

Mike
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: NorthShoreLB on June 29, 2007, 10:33:00 AM
Any kind of epoxy can be used ???
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: elk ninja on June 29, 2007, 10:48:00 AM
Maybe this would be a good addition to the Hints and tricks section.  I'd LIKE to say I can keep it in my mental section, but you know how that goes wingnut...
Mike
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: ALW on June 29, 2007, 12:16:00 PM
I use Devcon 2-ton epoxy in the double syringe.  The regular stuff, not the quicker setting stuff.  Has worked good for me so far.  I apply with one of those foam brushes and have found that the thinner I go the more passes I can make over the same spot before it starts getting tacky.  I've also heard thae MEK gives you a little more time for multiple passes.  So far I've only used acetone.

Aaron
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Pat B on June 29, 2007, 01:34:00 PM
Mike, with the regular 2ton epoxy I buy I mix enough acetone or lacquer thinner to get the consistancy I want. I have never used a formula.   Pat
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: wingnut on June 29, 2007, 01:39:00 PM
Thanks guys,

I'll let my customer know.  I think he is going to use on the pens he turns.  

Mike
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Steve H. on June 29, 2007, 06:15:00 PM
Only use two-ton of any brand, never 5 minute as it is garbage.  I tried once with smmoth-on and that was a failure.

Work time with MEK is enough unlike withe acetone.  Don't know what that is in minutes just "some" time as opposed to none.
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Falk on June 30, 2007, 07:18:00 AM
MEK ?
Methyl-Ethylen-Ketone or what is it?
Please help me!
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Steve H. on June 30, 2007, 09:57:00 AM
Yes, Methyl Ethyl Ketone.  It has a lower vapor pressure is why it is better than acetone.
Title: Re: Massey finish formula?
Post by: Pathfinder2 on June 30, 2007, 06:35:00 PM
Just be careful with the MEK guys.....it is supposed to be some very bad stuff.