are there longbows that can shoot with the fastest recurves and still retain quietness
and lack of handshock my only experience has been with recurves i've seen some longbows lately that i think i'd like to own i'm a whitetail hunter and some hogs.Thanks in advance Ralph.
Quiet or not, I suspect the answer is, "No."
Besides the typical difference in center shot-edness (Nice word, eh?) and spine and mass of the arrows being launched, I think it comes down to a difference in limb tip acceleration. I think (Just a guess, here -- I'd like to know what others think.) recurves can accelerate more quickly and "keep up with" lighter arrows better than longbows can. There's no doubt: the target boys love those recurves!
But when it comes to launching heavy arrows - like when punching through pigs - longbows seem more effective.
my answers (or opinions) to your questions are:
1st. question..."YES"
2nd. question..."YES"
3rd. question..."YES"
there are R/D hybrid longbows out there that will give any 'wood/traditional' recurve a run for their money in speed. as far as quiet, longbow anytime. now handshock. my personal opinion is most bows do have it but there are "SOME" bows where it's hardly noticeable being a recurve or longbow. I think recurves get away without it being noticed as much due to the heavier mass weight but I have shot "SOME" R/D hybrid longbows and DID NOT notice it.
just my 2 cents worth!! :archer:
suggestions on brand of fast r/d longbow? looking
to take some speedy Ga. whitetails this fall
love the trad bow love this site thanks Ralph
Crow Creek Bows are exceptionally fast and smooth. I like the 3 piece Black Feather.
Check out the Centaur longbows, fast, light in the hand, no handshock and quiet! Jr.
I'll second the Centaur, also, the Adcock ACS CX is extremely fast, (but expensive!)actually faster than most recurves that I have shot!
I'll third the Centaur. As quiet and fast and forgiving a bow I have shot. My recurve has more handshock than my Centaur.
Mark
ACS-CX, Black Swan, and Turkey Creek Double Carbon. I don't know if they are faster than the "fastest" recurves, but they will be at the top of the pack in a longbow crowd.
My 2 Boys,My Wife,and I all shoot Mikuta longbows.
Absolutely no hand shock,Quiet as a whisper,and Fast as any recurve I ever shot,Even has a recurve style grip for positive hand placement EVERY time.
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gonna check them out what amazed me at a shoot in Al.was how quiet a couple of the r/d longbows
were you literally could not hear them at 20 yds go off i believe if you couple good speed with that kind of quiet it has to be a lethal combination thanks Ralph.
I'm very pleased with the two that I own. A Turkeycreek and a Horne's Brushbow.They are quiet, smooth,fast, and very easy to shoot.
I've got a new Widow PLGA that is plenty fast, quiet and smooth.
I think it shoots faster than my PMA11.
John
Faster and Quieter and less shocky....
I'll second the Crow Creek Longbows. I also have some praises for Horne's and Morrison Longbows. I am starting to become more and more interested in a long bow. LOL
I got a Stotler Gamegetter in a couple of weeks ago and I am completely impressed with the speed and quietness of the bow.
Massie.......Jim Belcher ...bows...my 44 pounder is some kind of fast!
RER bows Vortex is a real quick longbow. It will shoot within a few fps of most recurves, the Centaur and OLs bows are the fasteset out there and that includes recurves. Any bow that boasts speeds of over 200fps. AMO 30" draw 60# weight and 540 grain arrow is smokin' and I know the last two I mentioned will do that and the vortex would be close behind. Shawn
Black Swan Hybrid is as fast as any out there. The top speed demons are all within a couple FPS of each other and the fastest can change with your release.
Would you say that these really fast longbows are kind of finicky on tuning, shooting form, etc., when compared to a milder r/d longbow, or do they just do everything better?
I have a 68" Challenger from Scherrinsky with 20" riser.
66#@30"@540grs..213-216fps.
64#@29"@540grs..206-208fps
62#@28"@540grs..203-205fps
The AMO (60# @ 30" @ 540grs.) is around 206-210fps.
I had it force curved at 29"-30"
Bow is 11 years old.. I would say it holds up well to the recurves. It was built for speed with optimun limb lenght, riser mass and precise core tapers.
TURKEYCREEK LONG BOWS=FAST /HARD HITTING AND THE ARROW GOES WHERE YOU LOOK !!!NO HAND SHOCK!!! AND NO NOISE WHAT SO EVER EVERYTHING A PERSON NEEDS IN A BOW AND THE BONUS IS DOUG IS A GREAT GUY TO DEAL WITH AND A VERY GOOD PRICE +FAST SERVICE AND FOLLOW UP THAT NOT TO MANY PEOPLE THESE DAYS DO!!!!!!!!!!!
What Dean said!
Who sells Centaur bows? :confused:
Jim Neaves is the Bowyer. Corvallis, Montana.
www.centaurarchery.com (http://www.centaurarchery.com)
Jim builds some great bows and offers terrific service. Jr.
wow never expected this much response it is really appreciated helps enormously in the search for first longbow i'll post when i buy thanks again are the fast longbows quiet too!
Most any of the top bowyers(and others) bows can be easily quieted with tuning and proper arrow choice.
Man Joebuck, I'd love to see a pic of that Scherrinsky. Those numbers are fantastic!
The Habu VyperKahn is a 3 piece t/d, r/d longbow. You can also buy recurve or hybred curve limbs in addition to the r/d longbow limbs. Mine is very fast and quiet. Also the best craftsmanship I have seen on a trad bow.
My son and I both shoot ACS-CX RD longbows; and they are right up there with the fastest recurves. Very little HS and very quiet shooting bow. The Fedora RD longbow is right there too, as are others.
Centaur is faster, quieter, less handshock, than ANY recurve I have shot , Bear, Widow, Pearson, etc
rnharris - I have just spent many weeks doing my research on here and asking many questions. I had the same thought in mind as you and had some of the same responses as you did.
After much research and deliberation I just ordered my Turkey Creek. If you want a bow that is as fast as the big-boys (without the wait), has excellent quality of finish, no hand shock, looks great and with a great bloke to deal with -Go the Turkey!$%!!
Sutto
In fact go to the start up page for T/G and look at the section for product reviews - read about the Turkey Creek and you will see what I mean!
AHHH suttoman you have learned your lessons well.Just let me add this and I will shutup.I had a Fedora hybrid my Brushbow shot the pants off that bow and the Fedora was close to 900.00 new.My "CREEK" is noticeable faster than my Horne's.Two month wait,base bow 425,Doug is a great guy.OK nuff said.
I have not shot it through a chrono but on my Sevenlakes I had to replace my feathers with asbestos sheeting to stop them from catching fire.
Check out Horne's. I am very happy with my Traditionalist,plenty fast for me!!! Great customer service too!!! I will be ordering a Brushbow soon.
Bill
Well, I think by now the word is getting out about Doug and Turkey Creek...
My Turkey Creek is noticably faster than my Palmer Double Carbon ('course it's 7-8 pounds heavier...but still, everyone knows a Palmer ain't chopped liver for a 'curve).
I am most impressed with JoeBucks longbow. In my experience I have had some shorter longbows that were as fast as my recurves but due to my sometimes ugly form they were not forgiving. A longer longbow , say 64" on up would be ideal. I would rather have a fairly quick forgiving longer bow than a short fast finicky one. You fellas with good form can do well with`em but critters make me jumpy.RC
Thanks guys i have spoken with Doug he's only a few hrs away in Al. easy to talk with very knowledgable gonna talk with a few differint bowyers and try to shoot as many as i can before i buy, going to Tannehill shoot in Aug anybody else going Thanks again Ralph.
I have a 56# at 28" 58" Pronghorn longbow and, when I first got it, also had a 56# at 28" Morrison takedown recurve. Both very fine bows and easy to tune and shoot.
I expected the Morrison to be substantially faster, so I was surprised when I tested them side by side (same arrows, same shooter, same day, alternating arrows). The difference in speed when drawn and anchored as I ordinarily do was about 3 feet per second... not enough to matter.
I have a Mikuta hybrid longbow..
It seems a lot faster than my Bear Grizzly and Hoyt at the same pounds..I know their older bows though, don't know it that would make any differance. I may try to crono sometime..