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Title: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on June 16, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
I have some Easton Legacys 2117 that I have cut to 30" with 175gr field tips on them. My bow is 55#@28". I am going to do more bareshaft tuning this weekend. But just curious is a slight barrel roll clockwise a sign of shaft weak? The bareshafts were hitting about 4" low and right with nock high and left.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: Chortdraw on June 16, 2007, 06:15:00 PM
My buddy shoots a 2117 in a 52lb recurve at a 27in. draw with a 125gr tip. You may be a little weak
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: jonesy on June 19, 2007, 02:06:00 PM
try 190 gr. feild tips.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: Shawn Leonard on June 19, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
Me thinks you are stiff, they spine around 80#s and even that long and the point weight I think you are still stiff but ya may be close. I would bareshaft them, your release and form can have a lot to do with the flight you speak of. Shawn
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: M60gunner on June 19, 2007, 03:23:00 PM
I agree with Shawn on to much spine. Yes you have a longer shaft but you have a lot of weight. The 2117 shaft weights a fair amount plus 175 grains of tip makes a pretty heavy package for a 55lb. bow. Oh yes, what type of bow? Recurve or longbow and how much centershot does it have? These items will cause issues also.
I use 2117, 29in. with 145grain tips from a Bear TD at 60lbs. Those same arrows will not fly from my Hill style longbow at 65lbs. To much spine for it.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: Charlie Lamb on June 19, 2007, 06:28:00 PM
Barrel roll? Do you have the proper wing fletched in the proper direction. IE...left wing with left spiral, etc.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: John Nail on June 19, 2007, 07:36:00 PM
If, you bare shafted these (way too stiff, methinks) and you get a barrel roll or slight fishtail, I would suspect nock height. However I agree with those above, probably too stiff. You didn't say what the bow is. Is a centershot recurve? I KNOW they'd be way too stiff for a regulation longbow of that draw weight.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: 58WINTERS on June 19, 2007, 07:56:00 PM
Snag,
What's your actual draw length. Nock point set at ?? Need more specifics.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: Diamond Paul on June 19, 2007, 08:13:00 PM
Sounds like a pretty stiff arrow for 55lbs; probably a 2018 or 2020 should do it.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: Otto on June 19, 2007, 10:10:00 PM
Again, a LOT depends on your bow and how centershot it is.  I shoot 30 inch 2117's and 125 tips out of my 50# @ 29 BW SAIII.  But I draw 29"+.  and BW's are cut past center.  If you are drawing 29" or so, I'd try dropping the point weight.

As you can see....no shortage of opinions here.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: Patience on June 19, 2007, 10:19:00 PM
I was thinking the same thing as Charlie; barrel roll? Fletching backwards, or to much wieght on one end.
Title: Re: New arrows show a barrel roll
Post by: snag on June 20, 2007, 12:37:00 AM
Thanks for the input guys. My draw length is 28". I measured it when I had the Blacktail recurve made. It is center cut. I found that my nock height was off. I lowered it to 5/8". The bareshaft tuning on some carbons worked real good. Now I am going back to the aluminums and see if they will tune. Can you shoot more than one type of arrow out of the same setup? Or does it just take more work to get it done?