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Title: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: paleFace on May 29, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
been working on a new hickory bow for my son and durn if it didn't pop a splinter while doing a little tiller work. at the moment it's 48# @ 22" and i'm shooting for 40-45#'s @ 26".  can this be fixed or am i just poop out of luck. as you can see by the handle i have probably put more work into it than i should have prior to having it tillered completely, buuuuutttttt i'm hard headed some times and get in a groove and just can't stop myself. take a look see and give me your honest opinions, good or bad....
    (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/hickory507.jpg)
    (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/hickory501.jpg)
    (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/hickory502.jpg)  


 (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/hickory505.jpg)

both limbs need some more scraping of course, but i hate to put any more time into it if it's a lost cause. the grain is pretty good on this piece with just a little run out towards the end.
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: AZStickman on May 29, 2007, 07:24:00 PM
I'd super glue it and then sinew wrap it..... a bit more rounding of the edges will help prevent lifting like that in the future....... Nice looking bow...... Terry
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: paleFace on May 29, 2007, 09:15:00 PM
thanks Terry, do you think i could back it with a snake skin or something and keep that bugger down? it would have to be right on the edge. how does a bow look after wraping with sinew?
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: Bert Frelink on May 29, 2007, 11:37:00 PM
I am with Terry on this, just glue it back down and wrap it with silk or sinew.
Should be fine, just go slow.
Regrads, Bert.
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: Pat B on May 29, 2007, 11:49:00 PM
I agree with both above. You could also back the bow with silk, linen or even brown bag  after you glue down the splinter with super glue. I would use TB glue for the backing. This might get you through the tillering process and you could add a silk or other decorative thread wrap over the splintered area and again on the opposite limb for symmetry.    Pat
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: gordonf on May 29, 2007, 11:58:00 PM
Glue the splinter down back it with either silk or rawhide and then wrap the splinter with serving or silk thread for good measure.
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: pappy on May 30, 2007, 06:04:00 AM
I agree with the others,glue it down,wrap it with sinew or serving and back it,I like rawhide.Snake skin won't hold a splinter down
but you could cover it all with a skin when it is finished.Good luck and you are right I don't spend a lot of time on the handle until it is shooting, just saves some heartbreak.
   Pappy
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: Eric Krewson on May 30, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
Never give up on a bow. I turned this mess of a deep split handle.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/Frankenbowtearout.jpg)

into this by adding pieces.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/frankenbowhandleside.jpg)

and finished shaping to this

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/frankenbowshapedhandle.jpg)

Later while I was tillering the bow "BOOM" but I didn't give up on it, and turned this;

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/frankenbowboom.jpg)

into this with some urac-185 and a new piece of bamboo.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/frankenbowgluedcrack.jpg)


If you want to go for the max fix I would glue the splinter down with urac, flatten the back and glue on a 1/8" strip of hickory, problem solved.

Gluing down the splinter and wrapping is a good fix as well. If you use thread, soak it with super glue or epoxy after you wrap it and it will be bullet proof.

I have a lot of sinew so I use it for repairs on my personal bows.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/limbwrap.jpg)
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: John Scifres on May 30, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
Here's a splinter wrapalong:    Splinter Fix (http://residents.bowhunting.net/sticknstring/wiltbow2.html)  

It looks like you are using a pretty aggressive rasp on the sides and even rolling onto the back a bit.  That is a recipe for lifting a splinter.  Get those corners rounded over but do it with a file and then sand it down a bit.  The grain looks pretty suspect to me.  Is that another crack along the splintered portion?  This looks like a problem to me from the pics.  I'd be very careful with this one.
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: paleFace on May 30, 2007, 10:56:00 AM
thanks a ton guys. i was hoping to have this boy ready for my son to shoot at Comptons. got some work to do that's for sure.  

help me out a little, i can't find another crack so i posted a few more pics. it may be where i had the center line and you are seeing the pencil marks.

also please tell me i'm running with the correct grain. take a look at these pics to verify that i'm ok. this only my 5th bow so any help is more than appreciated.
    (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/hickory508.jpg)

    (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/hickory509.jpg)

  (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/hickory510.jpg)
Title: Re: ~Advice from the masters~
Post by: John Scifres on May 31, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
It was just the angle of the pics and your pencil marks.  Looks perfectly fixable to me.