well darn it all, after building 1/2 dozen arrows to hunt black bear with they just won't fly for me.
stained them w/ blueberry juice, crested by hand and when i shoot them 4 or 5 will fly sorta okay, then 1 or 2 will just careen wildly and barely hit the block at 18 yds.
it's not the same ones flying wild, either, 'cause i marked them all. :banghead:
these are 11/32 65-70 spine sitka shafts cut to 28.5", started with 165 gr stos and then went to 125 gr ww.
shooting them out of a #52 RER.
grabbed a few 2016's and got the fletchings to touch at 22 yds, so it isn't just me...guess i'll hunt with the aluminum... :rolleyes:
Been there Brother. Out of all the shafting I have bought over the years, only once did I get 12 great flyin arrows out of a single dozen .... POC.
Try looking at your nocks to see if they are straight.. How do they spin..?
What kind of fletching jig/clamp are you using?????
I feel your pain.I lost my best in a swamp yesterday.I looked for 15 minutes.Out of the 6 that I crested and fletched this was the "1" that was alway right on.
Those woodies might be underspined... I know I shoot 2216's out of my schafer, and they spine out at 84#.
Woodies are certainly harder to get as consistent as something like aluminum, but as Brad pointed out you've got about a 15 pound spine difference you're working with.
dave:
You did not give your bow spec's, however I have to agree its probably spine, the 2216's are over 80#@28 1/2". I would guess the bow is cut past center, try putting something about 1/8" thick under your strike plate and try those same arrows again. What is a RER?
Bob
Wow...2216 are incredibly high spine for that bow....but if they shoot well, AND bareshaft tune well, then I guess that's what the bow likes....
I tried them out of a 59lb Morrison, 30" long, and they were a tad stiff for that bow, at that length...with 145gr points...
I would build your sideplate out in 1/32" increments and try those woodies again...probably with the lighter heads...
Take Care,
Marc
Try shooting them with the cock feather against the bow and see how they fly. Pat
Try builing a nice campfire with them and enjoy some Goldtip carbons next time.
DOUBLE OOPS :knothead:
the arrows i am shooting are 2016's :rolleyes:
think i'll try them out of my wifes #45 bear.
RER=river's edge recurve...
oh yeah, 5" shield RW
Oh wow, huge difference! Now you can have all sorts of new gremlins to chase.
According to Kelly's spine charts, 2016's spine out at about 61#. If the 2016's are flying good the wood arrows might be overspined.
Sounds like several issues at once. The spine on the woods are quite a bit higher. The woods are 11/32 and the 2016's are around 5/16 which could mean you need to raise your nock point. If you're new to making woods you may have missed a bend near the nock end or may have the nocks on crooked.
Homerdave -- you ignurnt snow-blind dummy! You wuntz akruccy, go get a durn turdy-art-sex! Geeze! Clearly, it's all yur falt, you durn dum bushrat.
Dave -- how you doing, pal? I'm having the same trouble and blame it, in my case, on "saving money" by buying cheap shafts at a trad bow show. Turns out they vary 50 grns in weight per dozen, and the spine variance is even worse. I'm going back to spending more on top-quality shafts that vary no more than 5 grns per dozen and are "multi-spined" at several turns for consistency. I've had best luck with compressed. I am now the proud owner of three dozen "economy" stump shafts that are pointless to shoot for practice, as a hit or miss means so little. Guess I'll take up flight shooting! When you guys get this figured out, please clue me in, eh? Yours, Clueless.
Another thing that will make a difference with wood arrows is orienting your nocks correctly vs. the grain. Also, look to make sure there are no grain runoffs on the shafts.
I shoot wood exclusively, and once I find the right match for my bow, I dont have any problems with my arrows.
How much do top quality Fir shafts run per dozen guys? I've got a bunch of old growth fir i'm making shafts out of that are excellent!!!! Staighten easily, syay there, and are darn tough shafts.... i put 300 shots on a dozen this weekend at a 3D shoot. i shot them into trees, split branches, and peeled the fletchings off some of them....i was impressed..i didn't break one of them!..
I've got a few guys asking how much i want for a dozen of them, and i haven't a clue what a fair price would be.....can you give me an idea?
Kirk