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Title: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 04, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
Disclaimer:  This is not a knife post  :)

Paracord wraps are used quite a bit in the military for knives, rifle barrels, pistol grips, etc.  They have numerous advantages...great griping surface even when wet, drys fast, always an emergency length of cord available, even secure hiding place (I have a $10 bill under my paracord wrap---finally know my knife is worth something    ;)  

I just started experimenting with these on knife handles.  So I need an opinion...which wrap looks better?  Shoe String is just an over hand knot. Twist gives a ridge down the center for a little thicker feel.  Also for those of you that have had experience with paracord wraps, any input would be appreciated...Doc

I altered a knife handle to have a steeper sweep on the under side to keep the cord from slipping the ends.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Knives/Downloads032.jpg)

Shoe String Wrap (I only had fluorescent yellow at the time  :scared:  )
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Knives/Downloads031.jpg)

Twist Wrap
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Knives/Downloads035.jpg)
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: snakewood3 on May 04, 2007, 09:14:00 AM
Functional and alot of alternate uses should the need arise. Kinda' like the old Ek commando knifes.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: Shell on May 04, 2007, 09:17:00 AM
Nice lookin' wrap!
Thinking on sending you some of my braiding projects   :D
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 04, 2007, 09:25:00 AM
Shell,  
No Way...my fingers are sore from just doing these two   :eek:
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: IB on May 04, 2007, 10:03:00 AM
Jeff.....Somehow I just can't seem to wrap my head around "Para-Wrapped" on one of your hand forged CUTTERS. Sorry but it just don't FIT.

JUST AIN'T RIGHT....JUST AIN'T  :eek:    :eek:  

See when I grab holt of a cutter, I want to be able to feel the sole of the Man that built it.

Fer me it's WOOD er Bone   :thumbsup:      :thumbsup:  

Good lookin steel BUD.

JM2CW.................vance
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: Izzy on May 04, 2007, 10:12:00 AM
The wrap looks better.How much and where do I send it?  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 04, 2007, 10:36:00 AM
Vance,  Maybe if I wraped $100 bill under it, you might get some good vibrations   :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: Cutty47 on May 04, 2007, 10:54:00 AM
Be kind of interesting to see a paracord wrap...say olive green, or black, as a longbow grip...

Great handle for a survival knife for sure...
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: LAR43 on May 04, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
Doc,
I'd think the wrap's going to relax after a while, after some handling etc & loosen up somewhat. . .  OOPS . .there goes your ten dollar bill!
There are a lot of tactical makers doing this style & overcoating them w. an epoxy (Massie style) mix to keep everything where they tied it.
But then there goes the extra lace/spare change stash feature.
Personally, I like the looks of the shoestring, but the twist wrap is the more classic "samurai" looking.
Man, you're becoming a regular forgin animal there!
Nice Stuff!!!  :thumbsup:  

Larry
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: JC on May 04, 2007, 11:36:00 AM
Vance, c'mon bro! An artist has to stretch the concept of convention now and then. I think a hunting knife with a wrapped handle is definately something most wouldn't think of. If you want more "soul", think of that handle wrapped in something like jute or....hold on....rawhide. Then some epoxy sealant...bet that would be a cool textured grip...and very trad looking to boot.

Doc, I like the twist wrap much better.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: IB on May 04, 2007, 11:40:00 AM
Now that might work...."RAWHIDE WRAP"  :bigsmyl:


Sorry I'm locked in a BOX  :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: Deadsmple on May 04, 2007, 12:25:00 PM
Tippit,
I don't know how big your hands are but you might want to thicken the handle a bit by first simply wrapping the handle once with the cord in a simple wrap then wrap over that with your more decorative wrap. I like your twist wrap for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on May 04, 2007, 01:27:00 PM
Can't really tell from your pics...but is that cord "gutted"?  It will usually braid and lay a lot nicer if you pull the insides out and use only the outer shell.  You may get better, glatter coverage that way.

The twist is commonly used on tac knives and looks the best IMO.  BTW, that is one nice looking piece with any sort of handle on it....nice job!
 
-Rob
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: 4runr on May 04, 2007, 02:29:00 PM
Doc, I like the twist wrap better, it looks more Trad. Rawhide would be stunning with your style blades.

If you epoxy coat then you loose the "extra" cord aspect of the wrap.

IMHO it dudn matter what you put on your handles, your blades always look great!
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 04, 2007, 02:38:00 PM
Rob,  
No I did not pull the inside nylon fibers out.  Never knew that.  This is what is so great about tradgang...always getting new ideas.  Thanks...Doc
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on May 04, 2007, 03:30:00 PM
You bet...I'll PM you with the address of a site that has a little quick tutorial on lanyards and other paracord-related stuff...great for neck knives, keys, etc.
-Rob
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: oneshot1 on May 04, 2007, 04:27:00 PM
There is also a weave for fishing flies you may want to try,very easy the make... hard to describe hehehe, an over hand knot dealy.. Gary Lafontaine has it in his Books. It would look good in a two-tone type deal... Thanks for the look.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 04, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
oneshot1,  Which LaFontaine book?  Is it for a woven fly?  Doc
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: ishiwannabe on May 04, 2007, 10:15:00 PM
What if you tried para cord tied on the same way you would serve a string? Thats how I have done it on a few throw away type knives while I was in.
I agree that epoxy would take away from the use of the extra cord.
Either way, you do great work.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: woodchucker on May 04, 2007, 10:26:00 PM
Personaly Doc,I have always liked the "twist wrap" best   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: vermonster13 on May 04, 2007, 10:35:00 PM
I've always thought the wrapped grips were the best for armguard knives. They lay flatter and stay out of the strings way. At least the green would make it easier to find if you dropped it Doc.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: Taiga Recurve on May 04, 2007, 11:59:00 PM
Para cord wrapped knives are pretty cool, however, if you have ever used one to gut or clean game and gotten the wrap covered in blood or fat you will know the down side. Your wrap on that knife is close to what is called a Strider Wrap. Para cord is the next best thing to duct tape. I always carry 12' on my at all times in a bracelet I wear.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 05, 2007, 07:06:00 AM
Taiga,  
Anyway to see that bracelet?  I always carry cord in my hunting pack but I like the idea of have some available without having to remember or if you don't need a pack ie. handle wrap or bracelet sounds pretty handy...Doc
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: Taiga Recurve on May 05, 2007, 08:11:00 AM
I can do better for you, here is a link on how to make one. Let me know how it goes.

http://files.bns-code.org/550_cord_bracelet.pdf
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: MYSTIKBOW on May 05, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
How about somthing like this.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/JOHN4Mystikbow/100_2394.jpg)
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: sticshooter on May 05, 2007, 10:53:00 AM
Hey Doc how about this. Braid it like the end on this handle.  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/fishrofmen1/IMG_2595.jpg)
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on May 05, 2007, 11:11:00 AM
That's a cool knife, Frank.....I have always wanted to learn leather braiding like that.  There's a great book with a million illustrations out there...don't remember the exact title...something simple like "leather braiding and lacing" or some such.  A knife handle covered in one of those ball braiding techniques would be very cool....or braided up with wet rawhide lace and left to dry..hmmm.   Bout the best I can do is a monkey fist with 550 cord.     :p
-Rob
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: sticshooter on May 05, 2007, 11:47:00 AM
Rob we did not make that knife. It was a St.Jude knife that someone won( Lucky DOG!)LOL I really think that handle would look great on one of docs knives.<><
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: oneshot1 on May 05, 2007, 02:30:00 PM
Doc...Sorry I cant find the Book(just sold a bunch of fly-fishing books), and I'm not really sure it was LaFontaine, maybe Borger???..LOL ..Woven Body Nymph,it's tied over a built up flattened hook shank, alternating over hand knots...one or two colors, It seems it would be good for a knife handle, just a hook shank in big size hehehe. Good Luck and Thanks for the look
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 05, 2007, 06:48:00 PM
That little braided boar tusk knife was made by Doug Campbell with the leather work by Roughcountry.  I know cause I was lucky enough to be High bidder last June.  Don't tell anyone but that team is doing another project for this years St Judes Auction  :)  

Thanks for all the helpful hunts...Doc
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: Curveman on May 06, 2007, 07:39:00 AM
I like the Twist. I imagine you could do the cord longer and wear it around your neck if you wanted to? You could even have a "quick release" cord.
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: RedTx on May 06, 2007, 09:40:00 AM
I like the twist the best
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: ROB TAYLOR on May 06, 2007, 10:33:00 AM
This thread caused me to go to the Texas Knifemaker's catalog site and look for books.  There's one there specifically about paracord handle wrapping if you're interested.  
-Rob
Title: Re: Paracord Handle Wrap--Shoe String or Twist
Post by: tippit on May 06, 2007, 06:40:00 PM
Rob,  Thanks, I'll look that up  :)