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Title: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Hornseeker on April 29, 2007, 09:01:00 AM
I finished this bow using conversion varnish. I recently had some trouble with some catalyzed urethane...and I'll never go back now...LOVE this stuff.
50@28  Carbon back, belly, riser... I sure like how the carbon dampens things...well, except for the speed... :0)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/hornseeker/rs7.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/hornseeker/rs5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v351/hornseeker/rs4.jpg)
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Ian johnson on April 29, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
awsome looking bow!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Charlie Lamb on April 29, 2007, 09:24:00 AM
Nice bow and finish.... what brand of finish was it?
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: razorsharptokill on April 29, 2007, 09:52:00 AM
What type of wood is that in the riser and where do you get your carbon for your limbs?
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on April 29, 2007, 10:02:00 AM
Awesome Bow! Really like the cut and slope on yur string nocks.
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Hornseeker on April 29, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
Thanks, thanks and thanks.

Trinity Coatings...I think Sherwin Williams is supposed to be just as good or better.

Cocobolo, hickory, maple.

I get the carbon layed up custom from an aerospace supplier...

Ernie
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: D. Johnston on April 29, 2007, 11:13:00 AM
Nice finish. What brand of conversion varnish is that? What was your finishing process? Thanks.
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: The Whittler on April 29, 2007, 02:51:00 PM
I do like the 3pc long bow, and the finish is nice also. You have one fine looking bow. Alan
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: hawksnest on April 29, 2007, 08:01:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hornseeker:
Thanks, thanks and thanks.

Cocobolo, hickory, maple.

Ernie
And here is a Hickory riser Ernie built for me. I really like it. Bill G.
(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Hawksnest88/Sapphire%20Hawk%20bow/MVC-002F.jpg)
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: bentpole on April 29, 2007, 08:13:00 PM
Man oh man Ernie that is one sweet lookin bow!Sure do wish I could shoot that baby.
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: sticshooter on April 29, 2007, 08:17:00 PM
STUNNING!<><
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Hornseeker on April 29, 2007, 10:46:00 PM
That Hickory one was actually the first with the CV... I was sold right off the bat. Keep an eye on the limbs Bill to see if the finish ever starts cracking...??

Ernie

Thanks for the kind words all...I sure appreciate it... fun stuff.
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: DannyBows on April 29, 2007, 11:24:00 PM
WOW!    :notworthy:  I've got a serious case of "Bow Envy". Beautiful, just Beautiful!!
  Dan
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on April 29, 2007, 11:56:00 PM
I recently had some trouble with some catalyzed urethane...and I'll never go back now...LOVE this stuff.

What kind of problems did you have with the catylist urithane bro? That's exactly the product i've just started using and it cost me a bloody forune! i'd appreciate knowing....Kirk
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on April 29, 2007, 11:58:00 PM
Very Nice looking bow.....  :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Hornseeker on April 30, 2007, 09:19:00 AM
Well...I would bet it was my doing, but it started peeling/flaking on me. One day I had a customer shooting a trial bow..I looked at it and saw a little pale patch...I hit it with my fingernail and I could just chase the bubble all around the riser...Entire finish peeled off..

One thing about the cat urethane is that its sort of a plastic that goes on the outside of the wood...the varnish actually soaks in and bonds a little better..????

I know of some top notch bowyers that LOVE that Cat Urethane... Just watch it to make sure that doesn't happen to you.

Ernie

Thanks
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Dave Worden on April 30, 2007, 07:42:00 PM
I tried some conversion finish (Fast Drying Polyurethane)from Kwik Kleen.  Have to work with it some more.  I was not at all satisfied with the result, but I think it was mostly because I sprayed it too dry so it didn't flow out well.  I love how it dries fast like a lacquer.  In my one experience, it did crack where my bow has a bit of a hinge.  After sanding off my poor attempt at finishing, I took the bow to the local bump shop and had it finished with automotive clear coat.  Looks great and it hasn't cracked any.  I do intend to try the conversion finish again, though.  Oh, the main reason for this was to say that it didn't seem that expensive when I bought it.  Can't remember the price, but I remember the shipping cost almost doubled it, so I'm guessing it was arount $10 a quart.  Here's a link
http://kwickkleen.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=polyurethane&sort=2a&&page=2
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: mmgrode on April 30, 2007, 08:27:00 PM
Very stunning bow! Very cool!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Kevin Breaux on May 01, 2007, 12:46:00 AM
Awesome bows!    I love the CV also, the only problems I have had is the CV finish crackling on the backside of a recurve (in the middle of the working area.) This was the only problem I had so far. The fella had it for some time and he took it from a (simi) warm area to 20 degree temp and on draw it started to crackle.

Again I love your bows, super job!
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Hornseeker on May 01, 2007, 09:35:00 AM
Hmmm...I'll have to keep an eye on that.
Thanks for the info guys.
Thanks for the compliments..
Ernie
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on May 01, 2007, 10:03:00 PM
I've done a lot of pre-finished woodworking with materials finished with CV....it IS kind of brittle...... and fluxuations in temperature really does effect it a lot...I didn't think it was rated for exterior use????? Are you using a "spar" version of this product?

I went to an auto paint supply outfit and bought an  auto grade Cat urethane....this stuff is tricky to work with but Man-O-Man! Does this come out nice after about 3 coats....Its made by "Val-spar".... a quart of it was $60 bucks  :scared:  Profesional products are spendy!

Kirk
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Hornseeker on May 02, 2007, 09:43:00 AM
Well...my finish search may not be over...I'll see how this stuff holds up...might be refinishing a bow or two!??

ANyhow, we'll see. I"ve got several friends who use it and have good luck so far...

Ernie
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Andy Lupher on May 02, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
The Cocobolo is beautiful! Can you tell us where to get the CV spray, application technique and how susceptable to UV??
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: JEFF B on May 02, 2007, 09:00:00 PM
where did you say you lived? LOL!!!  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Tried a New Finish...really like it.
Post by: Hornseeker on May 02, 2007, 09:52:00 PM
Andy,

I cant really answer much of that as I'm just now spraying it for the first time. I'll bet the auto body clear coat kicks butt for UV protection though.

Google, "trinity coatings" and call them and ask where the nearest distributor is. I use an auto body type spray gun with compressor. Ultimately, I want to get a Fuji turbine...

Good luck,

Ernie