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Well I am going hunting in Idaho this year and wanted to see some peoples Gear list. I want to make sure I am not missing something etc. This will be a DIY hunt.    :help:  

Thanks!

How are hunting?  You going to have a base camp?  will you pack in?

well I will be packing in with some guys in the group having a base camp. I am think of being more mobile.

ONE WORD..GPS... with FRP radio ..wait that's like 4 words  :bigsmyl:

:)  Ferret your a funny guy. I have GPS.

Good deal xia (how do you say that anyway?)

Sorry..I've never been lost but camp has been misplaced several times. As big as those drainages are out west you don't want camp to be misplaced for too long.I think GPS's are awesome when hunting land you are not familiar with.

Seriously, reliable firestarter, emergency space blanket, lightweight tarp, some rope, first aid kit, signal mirror, whistle, water and energy bars. If you do misplace camp and need to spend the night outside you need to make yourself as comfortable as possible for that night.

If you're going to have a base camp for the week and have horses or camp off roads you can bring it all.  If your going to jump around with the ultra light tents (That's my favorite way to hunt)  I bring water purifier, good binos,2 good knives, gps, compass, extra string, lots of jerky to snack on, freeze dried food, titanium goat tent, good sleeping bag, camera, 1 wool/fleece jacket, 2 shirts, one base layer top and bottom, one pair of pants, 2 pair of socks, baby wipes (way better then tp more versatile, pocket rocket for heat and boiling water, that's about it for 3-5 days after that I make a trip back to the truck or town.  This keeps me sharp if you're alone for over 5 days (at least me) I end up getting a little run down, so it helps a lot if you're with a buddy.

Don't forget knives and sharpener for skinning and quartering that elk you are going to kill.  A good frame to haul those quarters out and be sure you are really in good shape.  Idaho can wear you out if you're not in shape!!  I've hunted Idaho before, where abouts are you going?


Joe

I am running 30 min. a day and going hiking on the weekends. but it is never enough.

xia was the first emperor of china, but he/the Dynasty is more myth then reality. if I am remimbering the Correct info from my Chinese history class.
According to the official history, the Xia Dynasty was founded when Shun abdicated the throne in favor of his minister Yu, whom Shun viewed as the perfect civil servant. Instead of passing power to the person deemed most capable of rulership, Yu passed power to his son, Qi, setting the precedence for dynastic rule. The Xia Dynasty thus began a period of family or clan control.

According to traditional Chinese proponents of the Dynastic Cycle, it was during this period that Chinese civilization developed a benign civilian government and harsh punishment for legal transgressions. From this the earliest forms of Chinese legal codes came into being.

Jie, the last ruler, was said to be a corrupt king. He was overthrown by Tang, the leader of Shang people from the east.

For many years, the Xia Dynasty was thought to be a part of a myth that the Chinese tell as part of their history. The Xia Dynasty was in oral histories, but no archaeological evidence was found of it until 1959. Excavations at Erlitous, in the city of Yanshi, uncovered what was most likely a capital of the Xia Dynasty. The site showed that the people were direct ancestors of the Lungshan and were predecessors of the Shang. Radiocarbon dates from this site indicate that they existed from 2100 to 1800 B.C. Despite this new archaeological evidence of the Xia, they are not universally accepted as a true dynasty.

just a little history.

don't forget- bow n arrows.

In addition to the obvious, plan to provide plenty of water. Most of the West is pretty dry that time of year, and here in Colorado you can get snow at any time. (If it's not dry, it's snowing!) I have found that a good fleece vest is worth its weight in gold most of the time.

Dress in layers, and don't forget a camera so we can see that monster bull!

What part of Idaho are you going to, The north and south vary alot in climate and Terrain.

QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Hammond:
don't forget- bow n arrows.

and a quiver  :D

Off to a good start, need some sort of watrer filter system.  Way better than carrying 5 days of water.

Mark

I am heading to the southwest area. I have a water filter, as well as Iodien tabes.

Good optics, parachute cord, extra batteries, magnesium fire starter, imodium has been useful a couple times   :D .

Oh yeah, and a headlamp. Alot easier than carrying a flashlight everywhere. I also carry bear spray. More for the old gray haired bears where I hunt.

lots and lots of drinking water!!!

A light weight Silva compass would be a good back up to GPS. Batteries, electronics can fail but the Earth still has its magnetic poles.

As usual, the boys are spot on...GPS makes me VERY "confident", water in a hydration bladder so you can sip as you go. GOOD binocs.  Kind of key is at least a pack frame at camp to haul out the beast.  I am very fond of Balance Energy bars; when I am worn out, I can actually feel them work.  Oh, flagging tape to mark you kill for all those trips back in while you are packing him out.

Steve has a good list but don't forget to take the flagging tape out with you instead of just leaving it.  There is biodegradable tape you can buy if you would like to go that route.  BTW, you could also use your GPS to take you back to the kill site.

Joe

I've gotten good use out of a light pair of gators for when it snows, in dry country I prefer a couple of small bottles to a bladder, running out early or getting to the next spring thirsty and still carrying a pound of water you were conserving because you can't see the bladder in your pack are both things I've done more than once. Having light gloves/hat easily accessible is important if your trying to cover ground, sun/shade and wind exposure change minute to minute and having to take a pack off to access things gets tiring quickly. I personally setup three camps base/spike and bivy and use them all. Septembers coming fast

Here's my list from last year.  This was for a 7 day hunt in Central Idaho.  It snowed off and on the whole hunt.  Here's  My 2006 Idaho Elk Hunt Journal (http://residents.bowhunting.net/sticknstring/2006elkhunt1.html)  

Description   QTY
Pack   1
Bungees   1
tarp   1
sleeping bag   1
pad   1
stove/fuel/foil   1   
utensils   1
cup   1
water tablets   1
towel   1
headlamp   1
matches/lighter   1
binoculars   1
water bag   1
knife/sharpener   1
map   1
compass   1
GPS   1
cord   1
duct tape   1
game bags   2
camera/extra battery   1
Leatherman   1
flashlight   1
bow string   1
trash bag   1
headnets   1
calls   1
First aid kit   1
toilet paper   1
baby wipes   1
baking soda   1
polyprop underwear (2 sets)   2
pants   1
shirts   1
woolens   1
sock (3)   3
sock liners (3)   3
rain poncho   1
boots   1
stocking cap   1
gloves (2)   2
hat   1
Lipton sides (d)   7
Tuna in Oil (7 oz) (d)   7
tortillas (L)   14
peanut butter (L)   7
granola/power bars (L, B)   21
GORP (1/2 cup packages) (B,L, snacks)   7
Dried fruit (snacks)   7
gum   1
Glasses   1
Mylar Blanket   2
Tag/License   1
Bow   1
Arrows   8

Don't forget the Ibuproferen . If you are anything like me you will have some very sore muscles for a couple days. Also is needed in case of sprained ankle or any other painful emergency.

John

Bring good game bags not those cheap cheese cloth type. Nothing worse than going through all that work but to have dirty maggot infested meat.

If you don't have horses you r gonna want a frame pack that you can use the frame apart from the pack, and a day pack fro hunting day hikes.  Early season It is nice to scale down your day pack but never carry less then enough to spend 3 days alone.  Bring some high energy dry food like gorp or powerbars.  I always have a emergency blanket, basic first aid kit, pack hatchet, 3 kinds of fire starter a lighter, safety matches or I like the metal scraper flint thingies, and the best fire starter in an emergency is a road flare, I carry min 2, 3 when it's cold. I also use a headlamp but have a mini mag for back up. Parachute cord, flagging tape. As for gps they are great but you need to practice with it so it is second nature and you use it, but it won't replace a compass and map, always have a compass and map and know how to use them.  Bring extra wool socks and cap in your day pack and some good leather gloves.  Lastly these days while hiking in bear (grizzly for sure) country pepper spray is always on my hip along with everyone I hike with (they may still eat you but at least they will remember the meal that way).   Your week gear list will be what any long camping would have.  Leave the carbon activated clothes at home.  Have some camp cotton clothes for warm days, but remember basic wool layers, are very versatile. Rain gear, lots of undies and enough socks that you can switch out and hand wash hang dry others, keep one clean pair in your sleeping bag for backup and camp time.

9 mile said it, but I will repeat it, I LOVE my GPS BUT, get a map and compass and be proficient with them. Dont do ya no good if you dont know how to use them, and in them mountains learn how to triangulate with the comapass and map.

rely on your compass and your mind to get you around.

I start the day with my GPS then throw it in my pack until needed. kinda like good insurance!!!!!!!(if there is such a thing)

GOOD LUCK!! I wish ya the best. bring back lotsa pics.

I would be sure to have a judo point and have the ability to cook grouse.  Its amazing how good they taste when you are on the side of a mountain a long way from camp.  They wont be around when you look for them, but as soon as you set up on an elk, they will be in the trees over your head, pecking at your boot laces, etc.

As far as getting in shape, wht will get you is hiking at elevation.  I have outlasted flatland marathon runners.  Just remember you arent going to outrun an elk, so go slow, enjoy the experience and stay hydrated.  

Are you hunting a special draw, or general hunt?

greenhed brings up a great point...I live in the Bitterroots, on the other side of where you'll be hunting.  I see it all the time, guys who think they're in great shape coming up to altitude and getting WIPED OUT...different people react differently to altitude as well.  

If you can plan it, give yourself a couple days to acclimate before your really push it.

Wool..wool...wool...and the best boots you can afford...very well broken in...

Oh, I find a decent LED headlamp comes in pretty handy as well...

Simple items but you will appreciate having them along. Baby wipes for keeping clean. They can be a real important issue when spending the week in camp. The other small item is chapstick. It is more important than you might think.
Good matches - waterproof.
 If you forget your chapstick you can rub your lips with fresh horse droppings. It won't help the current dry lips but it will keep you from licking them any further!  LOL

Have a great time and good luck. Take lots of pictures.

Its real easy to load up your pack with everything you MIGHT need, but its something else again to carry it up and down mountains everyday! A topo map is a necessity in my mind, otherwise you are hunting blind. IF there is water to be had the water filter will save you from carrying a lot of extra weight. I prefer the collapsible water containers to the bottle type which "slosh" unless full. Pillow cases from the resale shops make excellant game bages. A BIG orange trash bag, like they use for roadside collection has many uses. It can be used to lay meat on, as a ground cloth, rain coat, shelter, tarp over meat, a signaling device etc.. An extra pair of socks, sprinkled with cornstarch and kept in a ziplock bag, change socks at lunchtime and it will feel like a whole new day!

Gear List 2007


HYGENE
TP (or shop towels)
Baby wipes (scent free)
Contact Lens Fluid
Contact Lens Case
Extra Pair Contact Lens
Toothbrush
Toothpaste
Soap (scent free)
Wash Cloth
Allergy Med
Sunscreen
Bug Dope

EVENTUALS KIT
Duct Tape
Mole skin
Ibuprofen (Aleve)
Antihistamine Tablets
Super Glue (Gel)
Neosporin
Gauze Pads
Chap Stick (also rubs onto BH to prevent    rust)
Tweezers (In small Swiss Army)
Signal / lightweight unbreakable mirror is nice to have Extra shot in string
Extra nock X 2
Extra nock point
Extra fletch with tape applied X 2
6' serving
Few rubber bands (lashing and string silencer)
Few zip-ties
Lighter # 1


**1st Aid and Repair kit together in a stuff sack = "Eventuals Kit"


FOOD
Vitamins X 1 per day
Emer-gen-C drink mix X 1-2 per day
Water purifying pills
Breakfast
•   Prepackaged granola with powdered milk X 1 per day
•   Instant coffee
Lunch
•   Trail mix
•   Peanut butter Jelly sandwiches in Tupperware X 1-2 per day
•   Jolly Ranchers
Dinner
•   Freeze Dried vs. MREs????


Fire Kit
Cotton Balls
Ferro Rod
   (balls and rod jammed together in waterproof    match case, nice kit)
Matches
Lighter # 2
Cotton Balls


GEAR
Bow  
Quiver
Arrows (6 BH +1 blunt)
Glove or Tab
Arm Guard
Knives
•   Main
•   Caper/ Camp
•   Multi tool
•   Small Swiss Army*
•   Knife and Broadhead sharpener
Hat (with brim, baseball or fedora)
Hat (warm, stocking or?)
Jacket
Shirt X 3 layers (long johns, camo shirt,         wool or micro fleece outer wear)
Pants X 2 layers (long johns, microfleece or    wool outer wear)
Hiking clothes
•   Shorts
•   T-shirt
•   Separate socks
•   Separate undies
Boots BROKEN IN!!!
Camp shoes
•   Sandals or runners
Socks (NO COTTON) 1 per day
Stalking Socks (heavy and dark) X 1
Undies X 3 per week
Belt and or Suspenders
Tent or Bivy Sack & Tarp
Sleeping pad
Sleeping Bag
Headlamp
Camera (plus 2 extra battery that also works    for flashlight)
Tripod (optional, small is OK)
Stove
Fuel for stove
Pot
Cup (both eating and cooking)
Spoon / "Spork"
Cork or Face camo
Rope (550 is good)
Windicator
License, Tags and DL
Map(s)
Compass X 2 (main and pin on button)
GPS
2 extra AAA batteries (headlamp and GPS)
Alarm watch
Matches
Hand warmers X 2 (optional if not cold)
Trail Flagging (or use TP)
Bandana
Pen and Pencil
Journal (or use map)
Brush Clippers or Trail Saw
Game Bags (lightweight for backcountry,    cheesecloth is good)
Gloves (hunting & warm, if both, good, if    not, bring two pair)
Camel Back in pack or 2-3 water bottles
Flashlight (with blood tracker filter if    possible)
Game Calls (I use diaphragm)
Binoculars (I like 10x42 for backcountry,    8x36 for brushy areas)
Spotting Scope (if you want it)
Space Blanket
Whistle


NOTES
In pocket is compass, rope (15' 550 cord), maps, windicator, lighter (also works as a windicator), whistle, brush clippers, Jolly ranchers and (in a waterproof match case) cotton balls and "Scout Sparker" for emergency fires.  Button compass is clipped onto shirt or jacket and checked periodically to maintain bearing.  If I have to ditch my pack and/ or I get lost  or injured (never has happened, but someday it might) pockets will get me through a night or two, maybe three.  


Truck Kit
Off road Jack
Check Air Pressure (Check spare!)
Check Fluids
Tow Strap
Shovel
Hatchet/ Axe
Saw
Heavy rope
Extra Gas
Water
Food
CB
Phone
Tarp
Tent
Target
Extra TP
Big 1st Aid
Coolers
Chairs
Spot Light
Lantern

Sspoon the list and advice here are pretty complete-what you need-flatlander-is to come back out here and let me take you running up Peavine behind the house!  You know the place, just north of me-up to the clouds.  We'll get ya in shape to carry all that stuff.
Seriously, you just moved from here and know how elevation affects folks not used to it. Getting your lungs ready for the exertionis key. None of that stuff will matter if you are miserable at camp. Kerry and Big Head say howdy. We talked about your bowstrings yesterday,

Wow some people really pack a lot in.

If I'm on a survival trip.
X-pack water system, or Platypus bag and a MIOX
Good knife
Appropriate clothing in layers.  If it starts to get cold you can take grasses/leaves/etc and stuff them between the layers for more insulation.
Swedish FireSteel
550 cord
Tomahawk (great tool and cooler than carrying a hatchet   ;)   )
Bow/Rifle and appropriate extras

Hunt
same as above plus
LED light
GPS + spare batteries
Mainstay ration pack(s) 1 is good for 3 days
Jetboil
Instant Coffee
Soup packs
Bivy sack or ultralight tent depending on the weather and how much I'm in the mood to carry.
Deet insect repellant
spare socks
Titanium cup
bundle of 550 cord

On another note if you really want to improve your hunting and stalking skills and learn some survival tricks go to Tom Brown's school.