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Title: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: The Ursus on April 23, 2007, 06:31:00 PM
Anyone care to share their heavy woodsman recipes?  Bird shot? 22 long rifle? Etc?  I'm trying to see if I can get it up to 190ish.  

BTW I'm using glue-ons.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: deermaster on April 23, 2007, 06:34:00 PM
if you go with a screw on insert shaft, you can get up to a 100 gr screw on adapter that converts the glue on to a screw on, giving lots of extra weight
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: The Ursus on April 23, 2007, 06:43:00 PM
Gonna use these on woodies so adaptors aren't an option.  Thanks though.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: Ga.boy on April 23, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
Ya might could get that heavy with melted bird shot and a short point taper.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: robtattoo on April 23, 2007, 06:56:00 PM
You can get a glue over adapter for use with woosed shafts, from 3-rivers. I think they're 100gn.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: robtattoo on April 23, 2007, 06:58:00 PM
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?c=10&s=47&p=0&i=4364X  

Sorry. 50gn.
You'd also need the short point adapters too. This would take you to over 200gn though. Maybe too heavy?
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: GregD on April 23, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
Ursus I buy 1/16 oz bullet weights for fishing, I clean the ferrules drop in the weight and melt the weight with a little heat. That brings them up to 157-158 grains. I do not have to shorten my tapers at all as there is plenty of room. I would think you could get where you want with an 1/8 oz weight. I dont know if you will need to shorten your tapers to accomadate the weight.Make sure you hold the broadhead straight while melting the lead  Good Luck  Greg
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: Mechslasher on April 25, 2007, 10:29:00 AM
i cut up pure lead decoy weights and melt in a large spoon, then pour in the lead.  dropping the lead and then melting sometimes removes the temper from the blade.  i usually pour in 10gr extra with new heads because i lose 5-10gr with sharpening.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: 2-BIG on April 25, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
Barry weighs in at about 225lbs. and Gene tops out around 230lbs. Gene has a sweet tooth!  :smileystooges:
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: DarkeGreen on April 25, 2007, 11:52:00 AM
You could always wrap or haft the base (ans shaft for that matter) with 50/50 solder and then apply a glue or epoxy finish over the top to hold it in place. heck, I suppose you could wrap the area under the blades too. Just spool off whatever weight you need, wrap, and epoxy.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: swampbuck on April 25, 2007, 09:39:00 PM
Bob Morrison sells steel addaptors's in 75,100 and 125 gr's.The WW is 125-130 and I'd bet ya could add a few shots of lead if you were so inclined that puts it over 250 pretty easy
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: Falk on April 26, 2007, 04:50:00 AM
Some general weight adding tips from my side:

- cut of a nail, welding rod or whatever of the desired weight to add to your front end
- make a jig to asure you'll drill right along the axis of each shaft
- from the front and befor cutting the taper drill a hole into the shaft, diameter according to point one above
- make sure each hole is the same depth
- epoxy the "insert" into the shaft
- cut taper
- glue on WW as usual

In addition to the above you can also epoxy a .357 Mag casing (cut bottom of first  ;)  behind your Bhds.
Use havy hardwood footings to give more weight to the front end of your shafts.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: The Ursus on April 26, 2007, 01:22:00 PM
Falk, I was thinking about doing that but wasnt sure how I could drill a straight hole.  Maybe I can rig something up on my drill press.  Thanks!
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: BryanB on April 26, 2007, 05:54:00 PM
Ursus-
Buy a box of #7, #8, or #9 (the smallest pellet size you can find) of tungston shot.  You can usually buy them in 12 packs or 25 shots per pack.  They will cost between $15-25 per box, but you will have enough for a lot of arrows.  Tungston is much heavier than lead.  Simply keep adding pellets until you reach the desired weight and drop a little epoxy in.  Some fishing weights are also made with the heavy metals.
Gool Luck
Bryan
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: The Ursus on May 08, 2007, 03:26:00 PM
So just a follow up on this old thread in case anyone else tries to add weight to their woodsmans.  I ended up putting 6 pieces of #6 shot in the front end of the head and the front portion of a .22 long rifle in the back.  I had to file the back 50% off the bullet to leave enough room for the shaft taper.  Anyway, it came to 160 grains.  I think if I had some tungston I could get them a bit heavier but I decided to use what I had on hand instead.
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: LazerRay on May 09, 2007, 08:57:00 AM
I use the steel adapters 3 rivers has some 75 grain adapters you can file them off a little and get 190. I shoot 250 grains
Title: Re: How heavy can you get a Woodsman?
Post by: wood slinger on May 09, 2007, 01:37:00 PM
To increase broadhead weight I have used the lead "thread" used for fly tying. Just cut a length and trim it until it is at the weight you need. Nest wrap it around a straightened paperclip or similar wire. When winding the lead, you can taper it to fit into the point of the broadhead. Then I use a nail to force it into the broadhead.