I am shooting a 65 @ 28 longbow. Can you get a wood arrow that heavy, that is spined correctly and will shoot straight? If it can be done can you suggest anyone here that could make some up? Right now I am shooting a 650 grain 5575 GT cut to 29.25"
Should be easy to do. I have POC's with 125 grain points that are that much and more finished out. I do shoot full length arrows, but I don't see it being a big deal with a heavier point. You can get well beyond that with a heavier type of wood.
Chad
LBR, do you make arrows? Send me a pm if you do.
Scott
Nahh--not to sell anyway. I usually try to con a buddy in to making mine for me--not enough hours in the day. I enjoy making them, but I'm too dang busy with strings.
Several of the TG sponsers can help you out though.
Chad
I'm not sure how to get that much weight out of POC. I shoot arrows cut to 30", and end up right around 550 grains with the 125 points. I have heard of weighting wood by soaking them, I think in stain? Otherwise I would think something other than POC would be the option.
Well, getting wood shafts (esp. hardwood) that weight is easy.
Whip, as far as what to soak 'em in to add weight, I'm 99% sure it's Watco Danish oil...
well, it should be easy with ash or other hardwoods, ash is very heavy and extremely tough, ot mabye laminated birch. or you could get heavy spined POCs and use a heavy point
My arrows are about 32" BOP. The tapered POC, spine 80 - 85#, range 650 to 680 gr. I have some older ash arrows that are about 100gr heavier all with 125 gr points.
I picked up some fir arrows from Raptor archery spined 60-65# [finished quality is beautiful]they come in at 616 gr when cut to 29" with a little heavier head they would meet your needs nicely. Call Ted he is a great guy to deal with and will do what it takes to make you happy. by the way he is a sponsor here. Hope that might help.Gene
Does it have to bhe POC? Hickory is pretty heavy, so so are Maple and Oak. If nothing else, make the shaft bigger in diameter.
Ash makes a great arrow, and will come in that heavy with no problem. Birch will come pretty close.
Try some laminated birch, I have made some that ended up 750 gr+. They are tough, no problems with keeping them straight so far, they are only 4 years old. I have yet to have one break. A little hard on the taper tools though.
Terry
I forgot, I have gotten some Larch from Troy Breeding that is really heavy, the shafts are over 700 gr.
Terry
I shoot ash cut between 30-31 inches depending if I'm using them for BH or target. No problem getting 680 to 720+ with 125 grain tips
I purchased some Hexshafts that were 80-84 spine, and at 30-1/2" BOP weighed 500 grains tapered, with nock and end tapers and 3 coats of poly. Excellent shafts and would weigh in exactly where you've noted with a 150 grain tip.
These are the best shafts I've tried to date.
I just picked up a couple dozen Ramin dowels from the hardware store and more than half were in the 600-675g range.
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Easy to do with Ash and Douglas Fir, possible with lots of woods either with exceptionlly heavy for species shafts , high spines and heavy heads or high spines and overlength.
Like the others stated,POC may be a little tricky to get that heavy,but ash,birch,ect is a sure thing.I like Birch myself.I shoot #60 @ 28" and my 29" arrows with 125gr heads weigh in from 610-650 depending on what type fletching,cresting,staining,ect. I decide to do.
Call Ted at Raptor Archery (sponsors links) He'll fix you up in a hurry. Probably be Doug Fir or Sitka Spruce shafts. They make wonderful tough arrows. I make arrows in the weight every year for our elk hunt. No Problem!!
Mike
You're going to need a high enough spined arrow that you can probably get there with cedar. Fir no problem, along with a host of other woods. Lots of good options posted above already.
The Watco Danish Oil is good stuff, but I found the natural oils in POC result in not a lot of weight gain. It can add a tremendous amount of weight to some other woods though.
Hickory (or ash). Then spend your evenings getting them straight but it's worth it since they are almost indestructible arrows. I made some short (22-24") hickory arrows that are over 600gr to shoot in my selfbows during the final tillering stages.
I like cedar but I've had problems in the 50-55 spine range getting raw shafts over 350-380gr. I've never had any spruce shafts that were any heavier than cedar.
Ive got 42- 29 in. 3Rivers ramin shafts made in 1996 that that weight 650 gr. w/145 gr. point, are as straight as my aluminums and hit really hard out of my 66# Groves Spitfire Mag I. These are the best heavy wood shafts Ive found so far and they were given to me by a good friend..
Thanks for all the replies. Going to check with a few of the sponsors here to see if they can hook me up.
I can get a 29" POC that heavy with little trouble. Dip, Cap dip (twice, 1st layer white, then pick your color)and crest. The sealant and cap dip adds lots of weight.
i made an arrow out of osage....it is 970 grains with a grizzly broadhead.....i will try to take a pic of it tonite....it is a pretty arrow. i started with a square piece and knocked the edges off with a hand plane but mostly just scraped it with a pocket knife......
here are the pics of the osage arrow....it is 925 grains with the field point. i am thinking of making a cornstalk point for it.
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pretty arrow, Ringo!
ace makes a 200 grain, two blade broadhead...
I would think with the high spine ya need that ya can get there with cedar, but ya do not have to get to the 650 really just close. I mean 99% of guys out there cannot tell a difference in 50 grains at 30 yards. Call around around an dask for a matched set that is 450 or so and ya can get there with a 30" arrow. Shawn
I recently bought 100 Premium cedar shafts 75-80# and 11/32. Only 2 were around 400 grains; 70 were 435-460 grains, and the rest were up to 480. One was 560 grains-go figure!
Any hardwood will get you to that weight pretty easily. With cedars, should be able to find some 23/64 shafts that will help you reach that weight. Much more difficult with 11/32 diameter shafts. You'll need to ask your supplier for his heaviest cedar shafts when you order, in the neighborhood of 475-500 grains or more to start. Cutting to length and point and nock tapers will take off 50 or more grains off the top. Most suppliers won't have 11/32 cedars that heavy, or won't have many of them. By soaking my 11/32 cedars in Watco oil, I can usually add about 50-75 grains, and I start with the heaviest 11/32 shafts I can find. Cut to about 30 inches, 29 inches BOP, I can just barely reach a 650 grain arrow with a 135 grain point. Sometimes have to go to a heavier 160 grain broadhead.