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Title: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 29, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
Today I acquired unusual 3 Bear bows

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_03290006.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_03290007.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_03290008.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: slayer1 on March 29, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
The one in the middle looks like a tigercat. I have one similar made in 1967.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 29, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
At the top is a Kodiak Magnum
Serial#  22B109
52" 45#
"Display" is stamped into the riser over that inscription
it has green glass back and belly and cracks running with the limbs both limbs belly and back silver medallion

in the middle

Bearcat
EXP
10CF461
66" 35#
white glass belly and back
bow is in near perfect condition
no medallion

bottom bow..(probably the prettiest bear bow I have ever seen..in perfect condition)

Polar
EXP
18CF467
66" 39#
white glass belly and back
Gold medallion
inlaid sight with pin and ring site pin
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: bjk on March 29, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
My uneducated guess -- A kmag, grizzly and a tamerlane...they are unusual because you have them and they have glass  ;)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 29, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
LOL bjk...I hav LOTS of glass bows. Just don't shoot them.

What is most unusal to me and something I have never seen before is the "display" stamped into the Kmag

and the "EXP" written before the serial number which are unlike any Bear serial numbers I have seen either (at least that I remember)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 29, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
I also got a hardcase arrow box with several dozen arrows, stringers, Bear string wax, a side quiver, 2 Kolpin bow cases. Most of the accessories are old and mildewy ((been stored in a basement since the 60's) and the arrow box itself is trash and maybe the bow cases...they stink

But the bows are pristine
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Kingstaken on March 29, 2007, 05:01:00 PM
Beautiful lQQking bows..

Estate Sale????
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 29, 2007, 05:21:00 PM
No Kingstaken, a friend of my older sister was cleaning out her basement. She and her husband bought these bows when they got engaged around 1960, shot them for 2 weeks, and put them up.
She was going to take them to the Salvation Army when my sister said "I think my brother would want those", so she gave them to me.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: mcgroundstalker on March 29, 2007, 05:39:00 PM
I Have First Dibs On The Middle One!!!... :rolleyes: ...Hey Mickey!...Wanna be my hero this week?...Anyone that is a bow magnet can be my hero for a week or so...(But not bjk)...

You self bow guys are pretty cool in my book!

... mike ...  ;)  ...
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: vermonster13 on March 29, 2007, 05:44:00 PM
EXP stands for experimental. Riser might be longer or some other difference. Very good find Mickey.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: bentpole on March 29, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
Looks like you hit the Bear Bow lottery right there Ferret Very Nice!
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Sant-Ravenhill on March 29, 2007, 06:14:00 PM
What a great gift...I am thrilled they went to someone that can really appreciate them!
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: George D. Stout on March 29, 2007, 08:54:00 PM
Mickey, the Kodiak Magnum is a 1961 with bubinga riser and green glass limbs; the first year of manufacture of the K.Mag.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Dan Worden on March 29, 2007, 08:58:00 PM
Dang George ya got me by 3 minutes....yup a 61 one of them Bears that commands a premium.

All three are sweet.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: bayoulongbowman on March 29, 2007, 09:01:00 PM
Micky do ya know what ya got buddy???? great value for sure!!! congrats!!!!Marco#78
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: bbassi on March 29, 2007, 09:08:00 PM
nice find! Your stock just went up. If she truly gave them to you, I'd send her flowers.  :)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Dryrot on March 29, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
Man, I gotta get me a better sister!
Cool catch.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 29, 2007, 09:50:00 PM
Had to go to a Home Owners Assoc meetting for the neighborhood tonight...what a drag.

Thanks GDS a 61 KMag huh. Is it normal for the lengthways cracks in the glass? I've seen the across the limbs marks before but nothing like this.

I knew it was a good find but had no idea these were this good. I'm kinda giddy.

Wonder if my son will know what they are worth when I hand them down to him LOL
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: photog on March 29, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
I took a shot of an EXP kodiak for a Bear calendar that I plan to print this year. It looks alot like the top bow, with green glass that you can see a weave pattern in.
(http://www.hunt101.com/img/484580.jpg) (http://"http://www.hunt101.com/?p=484580&c=500&z=1")
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Raineman on March 29, 2007, 11:01:00 PM
Awwww dag gone! I had two of three guesses right.

I had the KMag and the Bearcat right. I would have bet $$ (if I had any) that the last one was a Tamerlane.

That Polar has got to be worth at least $35.00 but I'd be happy to give you $40.00 for it. (insert wink here)

Could I check your toilet before you flush next time? (dripping sarcasm goes here)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Dan Worden on March 30, 2007, 07:07:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by the Ferret:
Thanks GDS a 61 KMag huh. Is it normal for the lengthways cracks in the glass? I've seen the across the limbs marks before but nothing like this.
Very normal for 1961 "Grayling green" limbs.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 30, 2007, 07:08:00 AM
Thanks Dan. Is it shootable like that? (not that i will but just wondering)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Kip on March 30, 2007, 07:19:00 AM
Micky I think I read once the display models were defective not shootable and sent to dealers for display only.This was years ago before product liability was a big thing.Kip
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on March 30, 2007, 07:58:00 AM
That makes sense Kip. Thanks
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Earl E. Nov...mber on March 31, 2007, 12:22:00 AM
Riser wood on the 61's wasn't fully dried and caused the glass to stress crack as it dried.. many were sent back for repair and ended up being painted to cover the cracks. Then they where star stamped and or the ser number removed to indicate they were no longer under warranty. Not sure if the Display where unshootable or if they where just bows that had been returned and the original owner wanted something else and were unsellable.. 63 Dog legs Type1's had holes drilled in them and then marked "Display"
I have a 61 Kodiak that is full of stress cracks, star stamped and no ser, number but it shoots great.
If the KM passes visual inspection, I would shoot it
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: sticshooter on March 31, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
That KMAG is worth some COIN mick. the other two are worth a bit also. But the Kmag IMHO is the top $$$$$. If it was say 50# and up you would be in for a big surprise on the E sight.<><
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Steve P on March 31, 2007, 01:04:00 AM
A Kodiak Mag that is almost identical to Mickey's- has the star stamp, serial number still on, but doesn't have the glass overlays on the back of the Riser- can you fellas put a year on this bow? Would the serial number be helpful?

Are the cracks in the glass repairable?


Thanks for help and information,


                      Steve
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: themonkey on March 31, 2007, 07:49:00 PM
oh man that tamerlane is sweet!!!!

sight looks likes in purdy good condition, does it have an aperature?
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Dan Worden on March 31, 2007, 08:03:00 PM
Mickey,

"Earl E" is the wiz, but I shoot mine and it looks FAR worse than yours.

I'm looking for a Kodiak in the same shape or better to fill out my birth year set. Of course like your K Mag, 61 Kodiaks are highly sought after and I'm cheap so it may take a while.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Ga.boy on March 31, 2007, 09:40:00 PM
Beautiful bows Mickey and quite a find! I have an old 1962 Ben Pearson Javalina that has vertical stress cracks on the belly and back of the limbs and it shoots just fine. I got it a couple of years ago and shoot it often; the stress cracks in the glass do not seem to have gotten any worse with frequent shooting, but I do keep an eye on them. I've often wondered if stripping the original finish and applying an epoxy type finish would help, although in your case I'd leave well enough alone. Ya probably want to keep her as original as possible due to the collector value. If you plan on shooting her much and don't like looking at the cracks, how about skins? I'll bet someone could show you how to do that. LOL.
Congratulations on the windfall.

Chuck
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 01, 2007, 03:36:00 PM
I'll take some interesting pics of the "details and post them up. Hang on.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 01, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
The Polar (and the sight..I also have the plate  for covering up the sight slot)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010027.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010029.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 01, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
The K Mag

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010031.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010030.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 01, 2007, 03:55:00 PM
The Bearcat

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010033.jpg)

The arrows

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010038.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 01, 2007, 04:04:00 PM
I also have A Custom Kodiak Take down and a Factory Camo Grizzly
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010036.jpg)

and a Tigercat and a Kodiak Hunter

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010035.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 01, 2007, 04:07:00 PM
and a Static Tipped Grizzly

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010052.jpg)

and a Brown Fox, and a 76 er(in hunting weight) and a Tamerlane (although it's been drilled for a berger button)

Most surround a framed Pat Marino print "The Gentleman Woodsman

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/theferret111/2007_04010050.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on April 01, 2007, 04:10:00 PM
Mickey you've got to work on your archery collection. Your walls are looking pretty bare.
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: vermonster13 on April 01, 2007, 04:12:00 PM
Wow Mick, nice collection!
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 01, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
LOL Luke it's a freakin museum my kids are going to have to deal with when I kick over
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: kojac on April 01, 2007, 07:02:00 PM
hey mick, nice score and I too like the polar w/the built in site. cool-beans!!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: the Ferret on April 02, 2007, 06:57:00 AM
Brian that Polar is by far the prettiest Bear bow (contrasting colors) that I have ever seen. It is stunning. Bet if they had made a Kodiak Magnum or Hunter, or a custom Kodiak Takedown in those colors it would have been awesome.

Course I'm kinda partial to that yellow color for a bow   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Killdeer on April 02, 2007, 04:59:00 PM
They certainly did a nice job on those old Polars, I have a Lady Polar with the zebrawood sight window. Real pretty! you oughta shoot that rascal, but I guess you are afraid that it might lead you to  your  dark side... glass!  :scared:  

Killdeer
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: bbassi on April 02, 2007, 06:53:00 PM
geeeze..... show off.

:)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Hatchet Jack on April 02, 2007, 11:30:00 PM
Here is a KM that a buddy gave me that he found in his dads basement. 52" 45@28 I think its a 1977 year bow (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/img_0024.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/img_0025.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/img_0026.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/img_0027.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Hatchet Jack on April 02, 2007, 11:38:00 PM
Lets try it again  :mad:  
Hatchet Jack (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/IMG_0024.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/IMG_0025.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/IMG_0026.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/IMG_0027.jpg)
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p261/Hatchetjackdog/IMG_0028.jpg)
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: Kip on April 03, 2007, 07:21:00 AM
Hatchet Jack   Not sure of the age but it is sure older than a 1977.Looks like late 60's maybe 71.Nice bow.Kip
Title: Re: 3 unusual Bear bows..identify or info?
Post by: arrowslinger22 on April 03, 2007, 07:25:00 AM
If that serial number starts with a "7", it's a 67'.  Looks like the coin is flush.  The 77's are green, I think.