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Title: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Tilzbow on March 04, 2007, 03:13:00 PM
I received my new Habu Vyperkahn double carbon longbow limbs yesterday. The limbs are 50# @ 31" and I can't wait to shoot them as soon as my right shoulder recovers from the surgery that took place three weeks ago. I believe this is the second set of double carbon limbs Chris Cox has produced using his new process, the performance should be excellent and I'll try to post some numbers in a few weeks. As you'll see he laminated very thin wood veneers over the double carbon which I like since the beauty of the wood is one thing I really love about traditional bows. He said his testing using this process vs. putting the carbon laminations on the outside, which most bowyers are doing, he only lost 1 FPS. The wood laminations are very thin and are covered with an extremely thin layer of glass or finish (I can't tell which nor remember what Chris told me). Here are some pictures.

    (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/tilzbow/P3040049.jpg)

    (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/tilzbow/P3040046.jpg)
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Tilzbow on March 04, 2007, 03:16:00 PM
Here are some more pictures that show off the wood. The limbs on the left are the original Hycurve limbs that came with the bow a year ago while the limbs on the right are the new double carbon longbow limbs.

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/tilzbow/P3040056.jpg)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/tilzbow/P3040054.jpg)
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Tilzbow on March 04, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
Here's a profile picture showing the difference between the two limb styles. Left side = longbow; right side = hycurve.

Now the long wait while I rehab the shoulder!

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/tilzbow/P3040067.jpg)
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: larry on March 04, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
the only right thing to do is send that to me until your shoulder gets better..I give you my word that I will shoot the snot out of it until you're better  :bigsmyl:    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Panzer I on March 04, 2007, 03:34:00 PM
Beautiful Bow, thats funny Larry I was thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: swampbuck on March 04, 2007, 03:56:00 PM
Make that 3 of us thinkin the same thing LOL

Congrads on your new toy she looks sweet.Try not to rush things and shoot her to early.... heal fast
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: ishiwannabe on March 04, 2007, 03:58:00 PM
Four.
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: swampbuck on March 04, 2007, 04:12:00 PM
incoming LOL sorry "duck" was actually my first thought when I saw "Four"

Ps Do ya need my mailing address I,ll pay shipping both ways LOL enjoy  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: vermonster13 on March 04, 2007, 05:36:00 PM
Five!
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: shapeshifter on March 04, 2007, 06:02:00 PM
scott- i have been doing the same thing with very thin glass and veneers over carbon for a few years now...... i have only lost 1-2fps over my all carbon version as well. here is why doing it this way creates such a fast bow.

 (http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/gjbruny/tradgang%20pics/limbthickness.jpg)

both of those bows are 58#@28". the top is done as mentioned and the bottom has only glass. you can see how much physical core weight is removed and why the speed increases so much.

that is one pretty bow you have there and guaranteed its a performer!!!!
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Izzy on March 05, 2007, 01:01:00 AM
Nasty bow, just downright nasty!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Doug S on March 05, 2007, 10:40:00 AM
I think that's the best design out there. Nice bow. I'll keep it warmed up for ya.
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Hornseeker on March 05, 2007, 10:59:00 AM
That is beautiful! Wow.

How is the performance on that hycurve...is basically an Extra Hybrid right? Does the string rest long on the tips when its strung??

Sweet.

Ernie
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Blackhawk on March 05, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
All I can say is WOW!  :clapper:
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Tilzbow on March 05, 2007, 11:04:00 PM
My shoulder is feeling better and I expect to be able to shoot faster than the bow could be mailed, shot and sent back!

Hornseeker,

The Vyperkahn w/hycurve shoots about 195 FPS in my hands at 9 grains/pound. I get this speed with the bow set up for hunting with a quiver attached, string silencers, nock set and so on. Chris expects the double carbon longbow limbs to be 6+ FPS faster, extremely smooth to draw and very quite. I know he's extremely proud of the new design and I'll know how it shoots for me soon!

The string touches about two inches of the hycurve's limb tips when strung.

His prices are high but I don't think he's getting rich...
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Panzer I on March 06, 2007, 07:55:00 AM
That thing is SICK.
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: joe vt on March 06, 2007, 08:36:00 AM
Scott,

That is a killer piece of art!!! Your a lucky guy. And congrats on your shoulder healing up ahead of schedule.

BWT, that weight would be perfect for me. We should swap bows for a month. I got plenty for you to choose from.   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: bowhnter7 on March 06, 2007, 11:20:00 AM
Mine will be here in 2 1/2 months, can't wait.
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: TaterHill Archer on March 07, 2007, 01:04:00 AM
Mine won't be here until July.
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: buck-tamer00 on March 07, 2007, 01:22:00 AM
:banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:            thats to awsome!!!!!! gosh!!!!
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: Tilzbow on March 24, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
My shoulder finally healed enough so I was able to shoot about 20 arrows today and all I can say is WOW!!!!

It's fast, absolutely dead in the hand, quite and extremely smooth to draw! It's quiter than the Vyperkahn w/Hycurve limbs, smoother on the draw and faster.

How fast? At 10 grains per pound it's as fast as the Vyperkahn Hycurve at 9 grains per pound! In my hands it's only 1 to 2 FPS slower than the speeds I recorded for an Adcock ACS CX I owned about year ago and that bow was set up with a 10 strand string while this one has a 13 strand string. I'd bet if I went to a high performance string it would be right up there!

I can't wait until I heal up completely and can give this a real trial, get it tuned and start enjoying shooting pain free!!!!

I love traditional archery!!!
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: James Wrenn on March 24, 2007, 08:20:00 PM
I would love to shoot one of those! Very nice lines on it.
Title: Re: New Habu Vyperkahn with Double Carbon
Post by: KyleAllen on March 24, 2007, 08:31:00 PM
i recently bought a used habu bushmaster. It is an awesome bow! I can only imagine it with the new advancements!!
congrats