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Anyone take any game yet? How does your deer sightings compare to past years w/camo? Hap

STONE kNIFE TOOK A BUCK AND A DOE

not yet but I passed several that I could have including a small 8 last night at 10 yards and a couple of does inside 15. Camo is soooo over rated.  :)

My plaid shirt is better than camo.   (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/420W/IM000298.jpg)

Isn't plaid just another form of "Camo?"

No plaid is a politician favorite color.Kip

Camoflauge is a concept, not a pattern. Plaid wool shirts are as effective a s any mossytreerealbark whatever pattern.

I have plenty of camo, because I have gathered gear over the years and lots of quality gear comes in camo. But my favorite early season gear are 2 Woolrich plaid shirts, one darker and the other lighter. Coupled with dull tan or brown pants, they are perfect.

Much of my heavier wool is camo (not all though) so I end up wearing it as the weather turns. But I'm not wearing it for the pattern, I'm wearing it for the warmth.

I see (and have killd) plenty of deer in non camo pattern clothing. I see NO difference.

Turkeys are another matter though.

I like wearing Camo so other people don't see me in the woods.   :D   I also see more deer when just walking down a popular path it seems in the off season. Deer can really smell threat! Good luck boys and interested to see how you fair compared to your camo years.    ;)

QuoteOriginally posted by Roger Norris II:

Turkeys are another matter though.

Yeah as they see color!    :eek:

I really like it when you see a hunting show where some guy's sitting in a totaly inclosed shooting hut in full camo.  Heck, he could be wearing a hot pink jumpsuit with flashy lights and the deer wouldn't know it.  Marketing!  

I could have shot the same coyote 3 times LOL!!!!!

Once at 20 yards,again at about 15,then again at about 10.....

I was hunting on the ground,and I had stood up to stretch my legs.....after a few minutes,I see a coyote trotting down off the ridge above me and headed right for my stand. Picked up my longbow,drew back,and followed him.....He passed through an opening about 20 yards away and keeps coming. He trots through another opening at about 15 yards and he's still coming.....I say to my self,"self,if he keeps coming I'll let him get as close as he wants to!!!" 10 yards.....he's still coming.....

Finaly, at the base of the rock ledge that I sit on,4 yards away, he stops behind a tree.....I think he smelled me because he slowly did an about face and trotted back up the ridge keeping every possible tree or bush between he and I.

That was COOL!!!!! Even though I didn't take a shot,I didn't stop shaking for about a half hour!!!!!   :archer:

Not yet but I leave for Ohio for a week next Friday.

I've seen 10 deer this week,, missed a small buck on Wed. at 8 yards AGGHH!! Last night had a doe at 5 yards but no shot opportunity, both deer walked almost under my treestand approached from behind and neither made me.
,,,Frank
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O-Long-I like that vest. Hap

i had deer and a coyote right under me today, 4 yards tops, doe was staring lazer eyes through me couldn't figure out what i was, stayed statue still, tried to draw when she turned her head but that dam sixth sense caught me and she bolted. camo clothes are for the manufacturers to get rich, as stated its just a concept. stay still, don't move, you could wear hot pink as long as ya don't move.

Frank they could not see you because you wore your camo gloves !!!!!!!!!!!!

Hot Hap,,Vest is from Filson,,new color "Grey Multi",,works great in a tree,,

http://www.filson.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2092253&cp=2065676.2065772.2117344&parentPage=family

Harl,, Just got a new pair of grey wool and buckskin gloves from Cabela's.

On a side note,, Our good friend Theo took three deer this week on our Catskills bowhunt,, he wore some camo but contributed his success to his plaid underwear ,, he even offer to lend them to me but I respectfully declined,,LOL,,,

Frank

I had one of best evenings in the woods ever the other day. I worked midnight shift the night before and got in bed around 7:00 the next morning. Got up at 9:00 to go spend the day with my daughter at the fall festival. Left the house around 3:30 to go hunting. I have decided that I want to do some "retro" bowhunting this year, get away from the camo and hunt in some wools and plaids. I wore a pair of blue jeans, long sleeve brown shirt and a tan and blue plaid heavy wool shirt. I got up to the area I wanted to hunt around 4:15 or so but was so tired I didn't trust myself in a tree stand. I never hunt off of the ground, always from a stand. I decided to put together a ground blind on the mountain. Pulled a couple of wire ties out of my pack and in about 15 minutes had thrown together a pretty decent ground blind. I got settled in and around 6:30 I saw a deer coming my way from about 75 yards off. This deer walked straight towards me, feeding along its way. It got about 10 yards away, but still facing me and it spent a couple of minutes pawing out a scrape right in font of me. When it left the scrape it continued walking straight towards me and stopped about 3-5 yards away just staring at me. I was on my knees and had my bow up but there just wasn't a shot with him facing me with his head down. He finally turned to his left and started walking up this steep hill behind me. I have already killed a couple of does this season and I didn't want to use one of my buck tags on a small buck this early but the totality of the situation was just soooo cool. He was up above me facing away real strong and I stuck a snuffer in behind his ribs on his right side. The arrow exited in front of his shoulder in his neck on the opposite side. At the shot I so the arrow hit and then watched my luma nock flying for another 30 yards before the arrow landed in the top of a laurel bush. The buck ran about 30 yards and did a summersault.

Just a super cool evening!! Of all of the deer I have killed, I have only ever killed a hand full from the ground in a blind. I had NO camo on other than my ball cap, just jeans and wool plaid. He certainly isn't one of the biggest bucks I have ever killed but I guarantee I will remember him for a long time. Besides, he was butterball fat and will sure be tasty.
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Does not surprise me about offering you his undies !!!!!! LOL

I took a doe in a black and white plaid shirt and green pants

im havin problems fellas. I havnt got any warm not camo pants yet i bought some but they are very high waisted m1952 military pants and a pair of 1940-50s swedish military pants. I have to cut down the waist and resew it lower and then i have to add pockets. so ill be hunting in insulated camo pant becausr its all i have thats warm. Im trying. hopefully i will have the other pants done in a couple weeks. So if i do post a kill dont hate me. Im still wearing non camo on top .

celticknot,
I'm in the same boat just can't afford wool pants this year. So far haven't needed warm pants but I leave for Ohio friday and that will change. I will have to wear my camo windstoper fleese pants. I got most all my plad shirts at good will but no wool pants for a fat boy.

QuoteOriginally posted by SouthMDShooter:
I took a doe in a black and white plaid shirt and green pants

I'd like to see pictures of a doe in black and white plaid, not matter what color her pants are.
 ;)  

Sorry, I've spent too many years teaching English to let that one pass.

It really doesn't matter if your not in an all non camo outfit, this whole thing is kind of a mindset. I mix up what I already own, one of the warmest bottoms I own are wool camo, but I do have a couple pair of old wool army one of them has a button in liner, it hasn't been cold enough to break those out yet.

some of you guys ,please chime in on my  difference makers to success thread.thanks
*Stone Knife;any deer left around you?Seems you're having a Great season.Congrats!

Hmmm? Here's another one.... :archer:

So we have folks who have seen them close enough to shoot but didn't, shot them but haven't posted an LDP, went retro but with no camo but still using a Lumenoc. 
I'm understand plaid works.  But does it work as well?

I was wearing this on the ground this Oct.  I guess I'd like it a little lighter in colors but it works.  I was brushed into a natural ground blind and had a very nice doe within 6 or 7 paces. She stared at me and then walked off.

Quote from: MnFn on November 24, 2020, 06:48:43 PM
I was wearing this on the ground this Oct.  I guess I'd like it a little lighter in colors but it works.  I was brushed into a natural ground blind and had a very nice doe within 6 or 7 paces. She stared at me and then walked off.

That's a good bear.  Congratulations!

I've taken deer wearing a red/brown wool plaid Pathfinder from Asbell Wool. Although it's "camo", my early bow season clothing is cheapy Walmart woodland camo clothes and deer don't seen to notice me.

Camo is anything that breaks up your outline and makes it more difficult for you to be seen. It makes no difference if it is plaid or commercially produced camo. Whichever is used, whether plaid or commercial, it still needs to be matched to the hunter's background. Those who believe plaid is better and those who prefer commercial camo are both right. As long as it makes you blend in to your surroundings, it is effective camo.

If you're in a wedding party your camo may be a classic tuxedo.

Copper Country State Forest. Michigan U.P.

Maybe a more apt title for the thread should be "The crew that heads into the woods without spending $1000+ on camo". Not as succinct, but maybe more in the spirit of what he's getting at!

With that said, I've bowhunted in a solid blaze orange top and hat (ND law for bowhunting during rifle season) and had deer look up at me and not notice.

We have to do the same during the general eleven day season in Missouri and even 15 feet up in a ladder stand they will pick you off in blaze orange every time.

And I wear Sitka gear in cold weather.  Second hand and half price.  And I don't care what the cost.  Its the only thing that has kept me warm at 17 degrees and a 15mph wind in a ladder stand.
By the way their camo isn't.  It's not a print.  It's not fake leaves or tree branch patterns.  But dang warm and I can sit longer and enjoy it better warm without so many layers I can't draw my bow or maintain form for the bulk of it.

And no.  Years ago wouldn't have afforded it.  And be back at the house sipping coffee with the shivers for hours after ab90 minute stand sit. 
Sure a blind with a heater is nice.  But it's always nice to be up, seeing what is going on around me.  See them coming.  Planning the shot sequence.  Can't always enjoy it the same in a blind.
I spend money on gear.  Just dropped a couple hundred at 3Rivers.  Why shouldn't I spend it on gear to enjoy more time in the field.
Guys I work hard.  I'm sure you do too.  And my time in the field is precious to me.  I finally decided all the army surplus wool sweaters and layers of thermals weren't the answer. 
But I had to buy second hand cause full price, and not knowing if it was really that effective scared me.

But even now, knowing I can buy it like new at greatly reduced prices I wouldn't pay full price.

But it's not the pattern, it's the low bulk warmth I appreciate in it.

Personally I'm more of a Mossy Oak fan.

Yeah, I don't know why I haven't had problems with blaze orange. It's obviously not the first thing I grab, but I do hunt on private land where the deer aren't being harassed and pushed around, so maybe that's why?

That's a good point to bring up about buying second hand! And, just to be clear, I'm totally not against spending money if you have it available to spend. Heaven knows I've put in my fair share of my paycheck into bowhunting! If you're comfy in Sitka cold gear, that's great! I just think this is more about "bucking the trend" of the TV hunting shows in their completely decked-out head-to-toe X brand camo (that they probably got for free because of a sponsorship) and hearing those same people say "you need this gear to bowhunt" (and, worse, reading keyboard warriors typing the same thing). Even if you were a head-to-toe Sitka guy, you do you!

All I have is my own personal experience where I've bagged deer wearing wool plaid (from a tree, ground blind, and makeshift cover) and I've heard stories from a good bowhunter friend who wears Sitka about getting busted. Obviously, he's been successful and I've been busted before, but I really can't say how much of it is based on our outerwear choice vs things that I know do make a difference (making a sound, moving, the wind swirling, etc.).

Well, I have an interesting observation.  Hear me out. I did wear camo this year, Mossy oak. Shot a very nice buck. Seemed like the deer were picking me off. After going through my gear after putting the bow away for the year, I made a quick discovery.   The camo was making me look like a dark blob. So I laid out my Asbel wool plaid in the leaves next to my camo. You can guess the rest, the plaid broke up and blended way better. Who would have thought after 54 years I would have to relearn that ? Back to what works next year. Now ANYBODY  know anything about ozonics ?.....lol

I am leaning towards an ozonics.
I use one of the scent crusher car units in my work truck.  Two sweaty men in the summer heat and it gets nasty in a few days.  I'll run it for a couple hours on the weekend and makes the truck a lot easier to ride in with the windows up and the A/C on.
BUT . . . Having worked around it for two decades in the water treatment industry I do know that it is very hard on mucous membranes, eyes and lungs.  So I never run it while in the truck.  And I will be very careful how I use it with a blind IF I get one.
By the way I still have my granddad's green plaid wool jacket hanging in the closet.   He's been gone 47 years.