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Title: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: Ray Hammond on September 11, 2008, 09:17:00 PM
I did a search but didnt come up with anything. My buddy has a Jack Russell and wants to start him soon..anyone know of books, websites, etc where he might get some good information on this?

Thanks for any advice.

Ray
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: John3 on September 11, 2008, 09:25:00 PM
Ray, Contact the Mooseman here at Tradgang. He has great tracking dogs. I'm sure Michael can get you pointed to the right place to look.


John III
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: Dogboy900 on September 11, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
This is a great book on the subject.

http://www.born-to-track.com/book/order-info.htm
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: owlbait on September 11, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
My daughter and her husband have that book and just bought a pup from them. Sounds like it has great info in it.
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: KyleAllen on September 11, 2008, 10:20:00 PM
i own that book and would be interested in selling it. It is a good book, i just dont have time to mess with it. Contact me if interested
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: Slasher on September 11, 2008, 10:59:00 PM
Troutbum forums (http://www.thetroutbum.com/hundeside3spor.htm)  

A forum on blood trailing dogs


But this guy is friendly and helpful on teaching a dog to trail.. and he's probably not that far from you

  Expert blood trailer in your area Ray (http://www.hillockkennels.com/)  

I am starting a puppy this year, but the key is a basic start with a dog with aptitude... and lots of blood trails...
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: beachbowhunter on September 12, 2008, 11:22:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by JDS3:
Ray, Contact the Mooseman here at Tradgang. He has great tracking dogs. I'm sure Michael can get you pointed to the right place to look.


John III
...now that's pretty funny right there!  Good luck Ray.
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: Jaeger on September 13, 2008, 01:05:00 AM
Peacock Bridge Kennels (http://www.pbkennels.com/)  

Andy Bensing,the owner of the kennel is an expert in the area of blood dogs and a heck of a nice guy to boot. He is leading the way to get tracing dogs legalized here in PA.
Give him a call. I'm certain he could point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: Zbone on September 13, 2008, 01:57:00 AM
Ray - Here's another one for ya:

www.deersearch.org (http://www.deersearch.org)
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: JoeM on September 13, 2008, 06:27:00 PM
Tracking Dogs for finding Wounded Deer, by John Jeanneney is a good read. Chapter 10-11 are good for any bowhunter, with or without dog, it gives very good info wounds and the effects.  Also info@unitedbloodtrackers.org
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: baretraks on September 13, 2008, 11:04:00 PM
..... teaching dogs to run deer?

I thought it was natural... kind of like lying is for little kids...
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: Ray Hammond on September 22, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
baretraks,

NOT RUN deer...blood trail an already shot and hopefully DEAD deer.

Running deer with dogs is an old, and thankfully dying tradition in the Southeastern US. But you train dogs to do that by throwing them out in the woods in a pack and just getting them started moving...they do the rest of the training on their own.
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: baretraks on September 23, 2008, 08:28:00 AM
..... I was under the impression that a dog gets the deer to run by....

Tracking it!!

"Running Deer" is just an expression I use.

I've trailed wounded deer a couple of times with regular ole house dogs. Trust me, you put their nose in the blood and they'll figure out what they're doing pretty quick.

I'm with you on the hunting with dogs. I never did care for it.
Title: Re: books on teaching a dog to blood trail?
Post by: Shaun on September 23, 2008, 09:28:00 AM
Ray, the German immigrant that started Deer Search Inc above worked with the NAVHDA (North American Versatile Hunting Dog Assoc) and I have met him and read his training manual. I have also trained Drathaars (German Wirehaid Pointer) to do this work. Here are a few things I learned.

Training yourself (the handler) is almost as important as training the dog. You must learn to "read" the dog on trail, to know when he is on track and when he has lost it.

ALWAYS use a special collar and lead when training and working blood trails. A wide collar or harness and 30 m lead is traditional. This teaches the dog that when this collar and lead is on there is blood to work. Never use this rig for taking walks or anything else.

Start with trails you have set and marked with scraps of paper. Make them short and lots of praise for success. Some dogs like treats at the end.

Eventually you can make the trails longer, older and even have others set the trails so you do not know where they go.

Blood is blood. You can use beef blood from the local locker, have them save you some. There are directions in training texts on how to keep it.

Work your dog on any blood trail you or friends have even though you have already found the deer. And make yourself and dog available to other hunters to help find their deer.

Good luck and good hunting.