Any tips for missing low? My groups are tight left and right but what spreads my groups out is missing low. My groups are good at 20yds but at 30yds my misses are all low. Is there something wrong with my form or do I just need to keep shooting?
I ain't gonna say it :p ...Van
I mean I have a group going at 30 and then I'll have a flyer that misses low. I'm new been shooting traditional about 2 weeks like I said at 20 I'm money but 30 when I miss its always low.
Stalk up to 20 or stand on a couple of phone books at 30.
LOL------Your kidding, right? If not, this is what I would do to fix it.....close your right eye, turn your hat around backwards, put all your change in your right pocket, pick up your left foot, draw the bow to your chin, stick out your tongue, hold your breath for 5 seconds, now release----this should cure you.
Jeff
Being shooting trad for 2 weeks and you're on the money at 20 yards with some low flyers at 30 ?
what are you worried about ?
JBiorn 20 yards is plenty good bud .That's why we call it "STICK BOW CLOSE"Practice at 30 yards if you want your entitled to a stray arrow at that distance. Did you ever think that fatigue is setting in constantly shooting six arrows.This is not a compound brother plus you've only been shooting two weeks. Most of all never take a shot at a game animal if you have any doubts on the shot. You have to be able to say to yourself I know I can make this shot at this distance.
bentpole-----it wasn't my thread, but thanks for the advise.
Jeff
OPPPS sorry it was meant for dogsBHTG
It really could be many things but If everything is shooting perfect like you say with a few low flyers I could hazzard a guess that you might be droping your bow arm after the shot. Try a keeping the bow raised for a few seconds after each shot.
dogs, no disrespect, think about it, bow arm up a little, bow arm up a little more, and there you go, smooth release and you got it. good luck
2 Weeks! Don't worry about 30 yds. that is going to come with pratice. you are doing fine.......
.....2 weeks? :bigsmyl:
Chort
You arn't peeking once it a while. If you lift your head to see where the arrow is going the bow hand usually drops= low shot. Alan
Also it does not hurt to number your arrows. If you got a couple heavy ones in the bunch it may show up at 30 yards.
Lower your nock point just a hair and see what that does. If it causes you to shoot high at 20 yards, then I would put it back where it was. Eventually you'r brain will be able to calculate the long shot.
I think it's your bow arm.
I find that if don't pay attention it's very easy to drop my bow arm, just a little, and the arrow hits low.
Jboirn thanks for the help, I started shooting traditioinal because it seemed like you guys were more willing to help. But I guess every group has some guys that forgot how it was when they started thanks.
Dropping your bow arm or just a bit of creep on release will show up as low hits.The farther the distance the more the little things count.Lose back tension and you are low.
and my groups at 30 arnt bad its just 2 out of like every 6 arrows goes low.
dogsBHTG, I could not resist the kidding. If you are shooting "in the money" at 20 yards you are a damn good shot. 30 yards ability is beyond many of us, myself included. At two weeks I was still struggling with being overbowed at 55# and unable to shot a 12" group at 10 yards with any consistancy. Now (after about 10 years) I am fairly comfortable with a 20 yard shot but may pass if I'm not feeling in the grove. Keep up the good work and good hunting!
I'm shootin a 45lbs Viper deluxe when I get tired I stop shooting so I dont get any bad habits. It does seem to becoming to me pretty quick. I am very excited a few guys that shoot trad equip told me I should go to the 3d shoot this week so I think I'll give it a go.
and I think it is me creeping when I anchor in good and keep good back tension I do good. I went out and shoot and kept my mind on good tension helped alot.
Justin we are trying to help you if you read my first post and exactly what Shaun just said. Two weeks of shooting and your doing great!!! Thirty yards six arrows and only one nasty arrow fantastic! That's a lot better than alot of guys here can do.It's just that a lot of us old timers feel it's not necessary to shoot at game at those distances.
I wont be shooting that far as I dont feel the bow would kill fast enough. And it was just that one guy that rubbed me wrong. I just want to shoot this far because all my buddys shoot compounds and I would just like to stay as close as I can with them. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
dogsBHTG, you are a hellofagoodsport. Keep shooting and good luck
:wavey: :thumbsup: :campfire: ...Van
May be a dumb question but are all your arrows the same length & weight?
yes hink it was just me creeping.
The occasional flyer is probably due to a short draw.
Invest in a clicker and see if that doesn't clean up your groups.
It's important to get the right start before bad habits accumulate. If the clicker tightens up the groups, you can then switch to a simple bow sight for a while. You will be amazed at how this will clean up your form.
After your form is solid, you can then go back to bare bow or whatever. This method is a very direct path to instinctive shooting, gap or any other aimimg method. It's how they used to do it in the old days. Or, you can spend years flinging arrows, developing bad habits, reading books on becoming the arrow, watching videos and wind up stuck at 20 yards. Your choice...good luck!
Can anyone say "Reincarnated Howard Hill"?
Well I just bought become the arrow have not read it yet should I? Oh and I was born on Fred Bears Bday. Just a thought lol
I was just picking on you Man----nothing personal.
I think you are doing great, anyone who is shooting that well after such a small amount of time should be quite the shot after practice. I suspect you will be on the hunt for a new custom before you know it.
Jeff
actually I'm already thinking about selling my Bowtech. Compound were just to easy anymore.
Justin, it won't hurt to read it if it isn't the only thing you read and you don't treat it as gospel.
I for one do not find tight groups at 30 yards to be all that exceptional or unexpected, especially from a young man like yourself.
I think it's a sad example of how the standard of accuracy has declined in recent years since field archery has been replaced by 3D and "get close" hunting standards.
There's nothing wrong with getting close when hunting, the closer the better, but at the same time there is no reason why you can't extend those tight groups out to distances beyond typical whitetail yardage and it's very much within the range of your abilities.
Should you choose to become more than a run of the mill archer, it's important to extend your goals beyond the mediocrity that is the norm these days. I'm not trying to incite any animosity within the bow hunting community, just stating a fact as I see it. Most, within the hunting community, are quite content to limit there shots and practice to under 20 yards as it meets their requirements quite nicely, as is evidenced by the responses you've already received to your accomplishments, but if you sense that you're capable of more, why not pursue it?
Thanks thats what it is I feel like I'm capable of shooting 30yds or more and was wanting any tips I could get to become better.
"Great Day In The Morning," you are shooting fine.
I was thinking just what James told you.
AND, the first posters hadn't heard that you had been an archer before your switch to trad. and just feeling you out.(I reckon. I too, was wondering about your fantastic success in such a short time)
Have fun...and a tip to get better at 30; step back to 45 :bigsmyl: :archer: