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Title: Feather length
Post by: socalmonster09 on August 11, 2023, 05:30:39 PM
My arrow will be 27" most likely, what feather length would you use.
the arrows I have now I'm using 4" parabolic on 26" gold tip hunter 500
and they fly good. new arrow gold tip traditional 600, is there any reason
to us 5", I have only shot field points, but I will shoot them when I get
more comfortable at shooting my bow.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: M60gunner on August 11, 2023, 07:37:44 PM
Before you make a decision do your bareshaft testing first. The size feather you choose shouldn't make any difference or very little unless maybe you are using a real wide broadhead. From what I have read/seen many are going with shorter feathers saying that's all that's needed if the bow/bareshaft are tuned. If you hunt in the rain a larger feather may work better according to those who do.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Trenton G. on August 11, 2023, 07:59:23 PM
I run 5 inch shield cut feathers. My arrows are tuned well enough that I probably don't need that much, but I like the added stability if needed. Plus I just like the way that they look.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: soap creek on August 12, 2023, 07:03:03 AM
4 and 5in feathers is all I've ever used. Never had any issues with either one using field points or broadheads.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on August 12, 2023, 10:12:50 AM
I use four 4" shield cut or 4" banana cut low profile they work great for me with a bunch of difference broadheads. I am going to try some 3" shield cut next.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: katman on August 12, 2023, 11:31:56 AM
4x90 parabolic (quieter than shield), 3" work well but I hunt with 4" for that added assistance. At my hunting distances 4 4" work.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: JohnV on August 12, 2023, 01:01:30 PM
If your bow/arrow is well tuned and optimized and you have a clean release, you can use very short feathers, even with broadheads.  Short feathers will have less air drag in flight which translates to slightly more arrow speed.  Less whistling noise in flight. 
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: David McLendon on August 12, 2023, 09:52:42 PM
If 4" is flying good, then why change?
3" might fly good too but may not be as forgiving of a subpar release.
Sounds like you probably don't need 5" although it will help to smooth a rough release and also masks less than optimal tune, which it sounds like that you don't have.
When things are going well, let them; the minute you start looking for trouble, you are bound to find it.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Kirkll on August 13, 2023, 04:14:22 PM
Personally.... I like a 3 fletch low profile 4" in a shield cut. i've used 3" before too, but i cant see them fly as well.... i like watching  that arrow hit my spot....  The less feather you have, the less a side wind effects it too.

2 cents worth...  Kirk
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: David McLendon on August 13, 2023, 05:35:42 PM
I don't disagree about the lower deflection with shorter fletching Kirk, the arrows that I've carried for Caribou the last two times wore 3" after noticing them on Jerry Russell's arrows and asking about them a few years back. His answer made good sense to me.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Wudstix on August 20, 2023, 05:02:41 PM
I shoot 4 or 5" depending on the broadhead and/or arrow material.  Usually, lean to 5" cause I shoot big 3 blade heads.
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Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: black velvet on August 21, 2023, 08:16:38 AM
I must be the odd ball. I burn my own and seems like 41/2 inch shield works best for me.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: J. Cook on August 21, 2023, 10:35:45 AM
I have multiple set ups on my various bows - all are based looks for me.  Once tuned, the feather choice becomes less important. I do t mean feathers aren't important, but I do mean that 4" or 5", 4 fletch or 3 fletch, banana or shield cut, etc is not important.  That's "users choice" at that point as all those lengths, cuts, arrangements have been shown to be very effective.  The key is starting with a properly tuned arrow.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Terry Green on August 21, 2023, 01:08:03 PM
I've shot 5 inch fletch my entire bowhunting career, except when an arrow smith put some 4.5s on a couple of dozen.  I have also shot shields 90% of the time.  Some shields are louder than others, mine have rounded corners and are not noisy.

I also have been shooting strickly 4 fletch for probably 15 years now at lease. I like 4 fletch for no look nocking and quicker stabilization.

I have never lost an animal do to my feather choice.  Those that are worried that 5 inch will slow down their arrow so they move to 3 inch feathers can't shoot the difference.  The amount is so minuscule its just not worth it over stabilization.  Especially when you have to manufacture shots in the field.  :campfire:
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: TKO on August 21, 2023, 03:52:20 PM
I've always shot 3, 4" feathers but this year I think I'm going to try 4, 3" feathers. Mathematically both arrangements have 12" of feather for correction/guidance so I'm curious to see if there is any noticeable advantage one way or the other.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: socalmonster09 on August 21, 2023, 06:21:15 PM
My arrows and feathers are here, will start cutting and installing the feathers soon
right now building a patio cover this week. I bought 4" of both, will make six of each,
to see how they fly.  thanks for all the info. I appreciate all the feedback
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Skates 2 on August 23, 2023, 05:50:34 PM
I use 5 inch, that way as another Tradganger always says, it takes them out of the equation.  :readit:
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Maynard Ferguson on August 28, 2023, 06:57:55 AM
The main reason to shoot 5" is if you happen to like them. 4" will work fine.  Last year was my first time hunting with 3" feathers. They worked great. Broadhead and fieldpoint impacted right next to each other.  This year, I'm thinking about 3" vanes. Your 4" fletchings will work great. Like anything else, make sure you tune for good arrow flight. Above all, archery should bring you joy; use whatever fletching size makes you happy.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: webb971 on November 13, 2023, 10:56:18 AM
Quote from: Maynard Ferguson on August 28, 2023, 06:57:55 AM
The main reason to shoot 5" is if you happen to like them. 4" will work fine.  Last year was my first time hunting with 3" feathers. They worked great. Broadhead and fieldpoint impacted right next to each other.  This year, I'm thinking about 3" vanes. Your 4" fletchings will work great. Like anything else, make sure you tune for good arrow flight. Above all, archery should bring you joy; use whatever fletching size makes you happy.


What shape are your 3" feathers your using?
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Wudstix on November 13, 2023, 11:29:31 AM
No look notching is a plus for four fletch, I recently had a bunch of CX Heritage 350's made up with 4 x 4" shield cut and like the look.  Also, this gives a smidgeon more feather to guide the arrow with marginal tune.  Usually have index nocks on my woodies, so like 3 x 5" Shield or Traditional cut, plus that's what choppers I have.  I shoot big 3 blade heads and personally prefer the larger feathers, may go to 4 x 4" for all arrow materials, just cause I want to, 16" of feathers instead of 15".
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Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Bowguy67 on November 14, 2023, 04:37:02 AM
I use 5" shield basically cause it looks old school and that matters to me. You don't need it. You also don't need to use a longbow right? It's what/how we choose to do things
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: smokin joe on November 14, 2023, 07:51:52 AM
I shoot 3-fletch because I have a 3-fletch fletching jig. There is no other reason than that. I have been shooting 4" feathers for several years now. If there is a difference in stability between 4" and 5" feathers, it is too small for me to see. I like the way 4" feathers look. That is the only reason I tried them in the first place.

To me, one of the cool things about trad bowhunting is that it allows for so much personalization in how you set up your bow and arrows. I truly do not like things that are mandatory. "To each his own" is far more interesting.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: bowmaster12 on November 14, 2023, 10:27:46 AM
If you are the science type the push archer podcast did an eposide with Trad lab all about fletching type size etc...
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Rob DiStefano on November 14, 2023, 09:18:36 PM
5" burnt design, helical fletched, 3 or 4 feathers.

Bare shaft test flights can be a good part of shaft selection, but having lotsa big fletches gets the shaft spinning straight quickly and can help when yer release isn't up to snuff.

As to big feathers being affected by wind, who am I kidding when all my shots will be inside of 20 yards or so? 

This is about longbow/recurve hunting, not target shooting - go big on the fletching and put some insurance into each release on game.

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Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Wudstix on November 15, 2023, 11:47:53 AM
Rob, also helps steer big 3 blade heads.
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Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Rob DiStefano on November 15, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: Wudstix on November 15, 2023, 11:47:53 AM
Rob, also helps steer big 3 blade heads.
:campfire: :coffee: :archer2: :campfire:

All I use are the original Wensel Woodsman 3 blades - fly great, easy to sharpen, devastating on hogs.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: BUCKY on November 15, 2023, 12:24:38 PM
I was thinking of 3 4" with my stinger killer bees 2 blade.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Maclean on November 15, 2023, 11:33:44 PM
Great looking arrows Rob!
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Rob DiStefano on November 16, 2023, 05:39:12 AM
Some folks are concerned about "pointed" fletch ends making buzzing noise during flight, and that's mostly true for high fletching ends such as shield cuts or fletchings that are "slope" scissor cut from rear to front (primitive style).  My fletch burnt shape is silent - no buzzing or zipping - because the fletch end points are lower than the fletch high point.  Took awhile working with fletch shapes to realize this and thus my burnt wire design is all I use.  Plenty of feather for good steerage that's helical, too.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: varmint101 on November 16, 2023, 08:35:53 PM
I'm using 4 3" this year and they've worked great. Not a problem from woodsman's to sharks. Always used 4 or 5 before.
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Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: tracker12 on November 16, 2023, 09:56:35 PM
I have used everything from 5" to 2" and have not noticed any difference.  I bare shaft tune then fletch what looks good to me which is 3" four fletch.  They fly well and are quiet down range.
Title: Re: Feather length
Post by: Rob DiStefano on November 17, 2023, 06:03:47 AM
Back in my heretic carboniium arra dayze I used a low-pro banana cut 4-fletch.  They worked just fine and had that extra "zip" flat trajectory. 

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This is all well and good until one day on the hunt with Tarz down in Texas I had a bad release that cost me meat in the freezer.  Since then all my shafts are helical fletched with big feathers.  YMMV.

Canada goose feathers - super waterproof!

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