Hey everyone,
Just wondering what people normal do for 2 blade heads, do you normal mount the head vertical or horizontal? and I guess also why, or what have you found to make you do it the way you do?
Thanks!
I shoot wood arrows and set the point where the arrow spins true so it can be most any orientation. For a 15 to 20 yard shot in heavy southern woods I don't think it matters. At longer distances in open country it may.
Where it ends up when tight in the insert.
Actually, I mount my broadheads, so with my natural cant they are horizontal
Same as todster
I mount mine horizontal. When the arrow bends around the riser I don't want the blade to catch the wind as it would if vertical.
Using aluminum and carbon arrows, wherever they tighten in the insert.
I usually mount mine vertical. Although sometimes they end up anywhere if I'm having trouble getting one to spin perfect on a wood arrow. I personally don't think it matters and don't believe in the wind catching a vertical broadhead idea.
I mount mine horizontal. Vertical bothers my vision. Its makes me look at the arrow instead of the target.
Horizontal for me
Quote from: toddster on June 19, 2022, 01:18:15 AM
Actually, I mount my broadheads, so with my natural cant they are horizontal
This is what I do also^^^^. My reasoning is so I have the same sight picture every time I pull back on a critter. If your setup is well tuned, broadhead orientation dosen't matter except as how it looks to the shooter.
Bisch
Vertical for 53 years. :archer2:
Considering that the arrow rotates while in flight, I don't see that it makes any difference. Wherever the head mounts straight is good for me. I just want it to fly straight.
Horizontal (when canted) and spinning perfectly. Horizontal to NOT see it and so the BH would/should never engage my hand/finger if something went wrong. I am RH'd and I cannot bend my left index finger from a childhood accident, so that sticks out there a bit and I have to corral it in with my middle finger to keep it tucked. I don't care to have "inches" of arrow in front of my riser at full draw and like to keep that whole dynamic neat and close to the bow. I can literally draw a horizontally mounted BH over the top of my hand without risk of injury. Also nice when shooting selfbows and similar w/o a horizontal rest. G. Fred suggested this years ago(1989?) Re: Zwickey Deltas to me, and I've stuck with it ever since.
There is no right or wrong, it is personal preference and everyone has there own reasons.
I disagree with the arrow flight argument Hor. vs Vert. The arrow is spinning inches/feet from (unless no helical or off-set) the bow upon release, and will correct itself per your correct spine & tuning efforts, regardless of the initial BH orientation.
Kris
Im with Pat B they have to be spun straight to have any real accuracy you just cant stick a broadhead an arrow and get it to fly straight with out getting the wobble out . You would need to turn the nock to get horizontal or vertical .
I mount them perpendicular to the wood grain, assuming if any external turbulence or rotational pressure exists on the face of the head in flight, the spine of the shaft might help dampen the effect.
What others have said about spinning
Which is exactly why I hated these heads. How do you spin test a chisel head? Yeah I'm sure it's hard to curl a point but....
What ever is close to horizontal for me as long as they spin like top.
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10 and 4 for me. I do it because I don't notice the broadhead at all when I'm at full draw
I fine tune every single arrow and broadhead so it really doesn't matter how they are placed; but I like them perpendicular expecially hunting wild boar at close range
I draw the arrow back until the broadhead touches my index finger on my bow hand. I mount the broadheads vertically because of that.
I agree with Tim, Vertical for me, or actually vertical at my cant. I don't buy into the wind planing coming out of the bow and a well tuned setup shouldn't make any difference anyway. But the reason I like vertical is to see less mass out on my arrow tip, that's distracting to me .
Thanks for all the input everyone! In the hunting off season I like to try things and the other day I was thinking about my heads and how they were mounted. I had mounted them vertical and they seemed to shoot good, but it just got me thinking.
It sounds like it is more personal preference and one is not better than the other. I may try some horizontal and see what I like better.
As long as you're using helical fletched arrows to make then spin it's just a matter of what you prefer to see at the business end of your arrow.
When I shot two blade I like horizontal, 3 blade I like a "Y"
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I align my blades with my fletch as often as possible. 3 fletch, 3 blade, blades and fletch aligned. 4 fletch (4 at 90) , 2 blade head, blades lined up with any 2 opposing fletch. 3 blade, 4 fletch..... never done it. :bigsmyl:
I mount my broadheads at 1 and 7 o'clock
Mine are set at a right angle to my string. I just focus on where I want to hit, draw back to anchor, make sure I've got good back tension, and let the string slip. Don't ever recall seeing the broadhead.
So I suppose mine are sort of horizontal........ Depends on how much cant I've got on the bow at the time I guess :biglaugh:
Best
Lex
I mount mine horizontal. I remember reading something many yrs ago that said that if you tune your setup well, you can get rid of porpoising but you can't get rid of archers paradox, so your broad head might still catch air and pull your arrow off course the side to side movement before it begins to spin. That made a lot of sense to me so I've gotten used to it and mounted them that way since then. But, with a well tuned set-up, I'm not sure that it really matters.
I have done it both ways and not sure if I can see a difference.I do like to mount all my heads the same so they have been horizontal for a long time.I do remember back in the '60's when I purchased wood arrows from Bear Archery,all Razorheads where mounted horizontally.Evidently,Fred had his personal arrows set up to use the broadhead as a draw check[vertical].That can be seen from old pictures and films,yet if you bought arrows from the factory,they would be horizontally mounted.
I have found that it doesn't matter for me. Idealy, I would like to have my ZD4s horizontal at my normal back yard cant, and a blade down with 3 blades just to get them out of my sight window. However over the years I have found that it really doesn't matter or bother me however they are mounted. When I shoot game I have no idea if its in my way or not as I am focusing so intensely on the spot that all else is either a blur or nonexistent.
If I were to hunt out west a lot where the wind wont let up or get blocked to slow it down, I'd probably want them horizontal coming out of the bow. :campfire:
I find that my arrows all shoot straight regardless of broadhead orientation. I prefer to mount them slightly off horizontal because I prefer that sight picture.
I shoot Zwickey Eskimo on cedar shafts. I have them mounted horizontal. Not sure why I did them that way. I've had the same dozen sense 98. I thought bow hunting was out of the picture for me after I tore my right bicep (bow arm) and have been just rifle hunting for the past several years. Long story short I'm back and look forward to bow hunting for moose this fall.
Two blades themselves do not care...
I've always mounted them horizontal so I don't have to look through the blade at my target.
Additionally, I like to tune and cut my arrows to be within a 1/4" of my actual draw. (I just don't prefer a lot of useless overhang) Mounting the broadheads horizontal allows you to slightly overdraw (if you get too excited) as a vertical mounted head will hit your arrow shelf well before a horizontal head will hit the side of your riser on many broadheads.
For those that prefer a substantially longer arrow length than your actual draw its a worthless point. Yet, a lot of folks sometimes obtain arrows that are just a little too short; and mounting broadways horizontal (such as a Zwickey Eskimo) will allow a little more than an additional 1/4"draw than a vertical mounted on many recurve bows....maybe on some longbows as well but I'm not sure.
Judging by all the different personal preferences on this topic, I'd say it's definitely a personal preference. But .... So is arrow fletching length and amount of helical.
I believe using a two blade at close yardage isn't going to matter much at all.
But there are cases with with an extreme FOC setup using low profile fletching, the arrows can be effected much more by wind at longer distances more with larger broad heads. The extreme FOC set up is tough enough to tune arrows without broad heads. A longer low profile broad head like a Grizzly single bevel, will have less effect than a wider one that catches more wind as the arrow slows down.
You are putting wings on the front of your arrow with a broad head. So the key to consistency at longer distances is having a good fletching that stabilizes the arrow in flight and keeps it spinning longer.
This is a close up game in most cases in traditional archery hunting, so it's really personal preference. Kirk
Quote from: Kirkll on June 27, 2022, 10:33:12 AM
You are putting wings on the front of your arrow with a broad head. So the key to consistency at longer distances is having a good fletching that stabilizes the arrow in flight and keeps it spinning longer.
Thank you!
I shoot 4 blades and have also found that it really doesn't matter how the main blades are oriented.