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Title: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Buemaker on September 24, 2021, 07:06:10 AM
The 7000 year old Hjarnø bow found in Denmark a few years ago. One tip was missing.
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/mesolithic-bow-from-hjarn-70f092b78ef3410ea5556b2878f980b1
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Mad Max on September 24, 2021, 08:13:53 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Flem on September 24, 2021, 08:49:35 AM
Damn, thats older than the Earth :smileystooges:

Is it possible to tell the type of wood it was made from? :saywhat:
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Buemaker on September 24, 2021, 09:15:44 AM
Elm.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: mmattockx on September 24, 2021, 10:23:10 AM
Quote from: Buemaker on September 24, 2021, 07:06:10 AM
The 7000 year old Hjarnø bow found in Denmark a few years ago. One tip was missing.
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/mesolithic-bow-from-hjarn-70f092b78ef3410ea5556b2878f980b1

I would call that a mollegabet bow, but it would seem the Danes had the idea as well.


Quote from: Flem on September 24, 2021, 08:49:35 AM
Damn, thats older than the Earth :smileystooges:

Zing! :o


Mark
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Shredd on September 24, 2021, 10:38:25 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Buemaker on September 24, 2021, 11:09:12 AM
The so called Møllegabet is Danish.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Bvas on September 24, 2021, 12:30:23 PM
That's pretty cool Bue.

I can't help but wonder what he mighta been hunting way back then.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: KenH on September 24, 2021, 03:44:45 PM
That's a fabulous find and a great 3D recreation.    Fascinating to me that the Northern Cultures  developed that "lever-tipped" concept rather than the recurve.  Both designs give added energy to the arrow, of course.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Pat B on September 24, 2021, 06:30:38 PM
Very cool bue, Bue.  :thumbsup:
Are there dimensions for it, length, width, lever length, width and thickness?
I have a piece of elm I've been working on that might end up as the Elg Bue using the moose(elg)sinew you sent me. This would be a good design to use as a template.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 25, 2021, 05:17:38 AM
Pretty cool...
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: KenH on September 25, 2021, 08:38:32 AM
PatB -- the only dimensions I could find for the Hjarnø bow are overall length 1.6m, width 5cm, lever 1/3 the length of the working limb...  very close to the dimensions of the Møllegabet find, I believe.  I don't have access to anything other than academia.edu for research papers and it is only mentioned there in passing, not in detail.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Pat B on September 25, 2021, 10:03:13 AM
Thanks Ken. That gives me something to work with.  :thumbsup:
So that about 63"x almost 2". I think my stave is just under that. This might just work out ok.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: KenH on September 25, 2021, 11:08:27 AM
Give it a try Pat.  I've made Møllegabets from boards but not staves, as small as 48" n-t-n.  It's the proportions of lever to working limb and handle length (figure 5" fade to fade) that really matter, IMHO.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Mad Max on September 25, 2021, 11:37:16 AM
This is the one Buemaker poste from Denmark.
I took all the metric measurements and changed to English
The top ones, 71" NTN
the bottom one is a modified one. 64" NTN

(https://i.imgur.com/4dQZ7JC.jpg)
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Pat B on September 25, 2021, 12:02:19 PM
I think my stave is about 60" +/- but it has a twist. I'll get it down to floor tiller stage, heat the twist out then set it up to the style. This is gonna be a slow process because I want to wait til winter before adding the sinew...plus I have to get my brain back into bow building mode.  :bigsmyl:
Thanks for the help, guys.
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Buemaker on September 25, 2021, 01:51:00 PM
I posted this here a while ago
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=176247.msg2967397#msg2967397
Title: Re: Hjarnø bow
Post by: Mad Max on September 25, 2021, 02:55:42 PM
That's the one I drew up Bue.
Thanks for posting it :thumbsup: