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Title: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Sologuy on September 02, 2021, 07:28:21 AM
Hey guys....  Question....

So what have you found works best gluing up scarfed laminations to end up with good result ?

I have a method of cutting them although love to hear yours as well but my main focus is how to glue up without a multitude of issues. I am also assuming I should use epoxy to glue up

Thanks for any input guys...always appreciated    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: kennym on September 02, 2021, 08:13:49 AM
Here is how I do the scarfs,I use CA but use more than a drop, and let it stay clamped a few minutes.

It's a few pics down the way...

https://www.kennysarchery.com/bow-build
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Mad Max on September 02, 2021, 09:25:20 AM
Very good Kenny :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Shredd on September 02, 2021, 11:10:21 AM
A good rule of thumb... You want your scarf joint 7 to 1... Meaning for every inch you want the joint 7" long...  Longer is always better than shorter...  I make my joint on a disc sander where  I clamp a board on an angle around 7 to 1 and then slide my lam into the sander until I get a feather but square edge...  I clamp the pieces to a 1 1/2 x 1 1/2" piece of aluminum to make sure they are straight... Then I glue up joint and clamp it with titebond 2 wood glue...  Glue sets good enough in 1 hr. to move...
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: kennym on September 02, 2021, 11:25:03 AM
A good rule of thumb... You want your scarf joint 7 to 1

Yep, you gotta have the longer joint, especially if the lam has to bend for a deflex riser... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Jeff Freeman on September 02, 2021, 12:06:26 PM
Nice little building long Kenny. JF
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: kennym on September 02, 2021, 04:58:02 PM
Thanks Jeff!
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Jeff Freeman on September 02, 2021, 05:00:12 PM
You're not that far from me Kenny. Maybe I will have to stop in and see you sometime that'd be cool. I've heard a lot about you over the years. All good. JF
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: kennym on September 02, 2021, 05:12:11 PM
Dang Jeff, now ya gonna have Roy all stirred up!  Come on down! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Jeff Freeman on September 02, 2021, 05:13:27 PM
Lmao. I'm going to have to put that on a to-do list Kenny. JF
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: kennym on September 02, 2021, 05:20:22 PM
Just give a call to make sure I'm here!  Hunting season is coming!  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Jeff Freeman on September 02, 2021, 05:26:17 PM
For sure I'll definitely let you know the day I'm coming down that way. When it's possible. JF
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Crooked Stic on September 02, 2021, 08:42:13 PM
Kennys method. I have a 2x4 with a rabbit that gives me a ledge to keep them straight while clamped and CA. And it they are thick I have a short sled with a hump that thins it to bend better.
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Mad Max on September 02, 2021, 09:00:57 PM
Quote from: Crooked Stic on September 02, 2021, 08:42:13 PM
Kennys method. I have a 2x4 with a rabbit that gives me a ledge to keep them straight while clamped and CA. And it they are thick I have a short sled with a hump that thins it to bend better.

Is this English  :dunno:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Flem on September 02, 2021, 11:12:22 PM
Quote from: Mad Max on September 02, 2021, 09:00:57 PM
Quote from: Crooked Stic on September 02, 2021, 08:42:13 PM
Kennys method. I have a 2x4 with a rabbit that gives me a ledge to keep them straight while clamped and CA. And it they are thick I have a short sled with a hump that thins it to bend better.

Is this English  :dunno:

Sure, you just have to read it like it was texted by big fingers on a little touch screen.
So it sounds like Stic has a chunk of wood with an open channel to register the lams against when he is glueing with super glue. And he also has a sled he uses to thin down fat lams before he grinds the scarf.
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 03, 2021, 07:03:37 AM
Quote from: Crooked Stic on September 02, 2021, 08:42:13 PM
Kennys method. I have a 2x4 with a rabbit that gives me a ledge to keep them straight while clamped and CA. And it they are thick I have a short sled with a hump that thins it to bend better.

Ok but what's the rabbits name?:)
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Mad Max on September 03, 2021, 07:06:36 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: KenH on September 03, 2021, 07:16:45 AM
Rabbit's name is Earl, and he carries a BIG knife!
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 03, 2021, 07:43:44 AM
 :laughing:
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Flem on September 03, 2021, 09:09:24 AM
I was thinking the rabbit's name is Babel, but it was hard to decipher ;)
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Flem on September 03, 2021, 03:38:44 PM
In the spirit of the OP, here is another way to get your scarf if you have a table saw, but not a disc sander.
Using the miter gauge slot, I get a 13/16" lap on .200" lams
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Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Jeff Freeman on September 03, 2021, 05:46:56 PM
Is this knife big enough 🤣
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Mad Max on September 03, 2021, 05:59:30 PM
No mate you got to have a crocodile dundee knife
(https://i.imgur.com/I0oUFoQ.jpg)
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Jeff Freeman on September 03, 2021, 06:00:38 PM
Dam yours is bigger 😅
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Mike L. on November 18, 2021, 02:38:56 PM
I always have a hell of a time using my disc sander for scarf joints.  I can't seem to get it to sand a taper 90 degrees.
Title: Re: SCARF JOINT HELP
Post by: Jeff Freeman on November 18, 2021, 03:26:28 PM
How the heck did that knife get in this post, I'm confused. I think I have a picture of my jig for scarfing the joints. JF