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Title: insert install help
Post by: Hot Hap on July 06, 2021, 11:25:19 PM
 I have had 5 surgeries in the last 6 months with one more to go next month. As a result I have had to drop about 20# of DW. I used wood arrows since 1958. I got two dozen aluminium arrows but  have a heck of a time getting the inserts installed.

The shafts are 1916 and 2016. The inserts go in easy but the last eighth of a inch will not without a real struggle. I did the 1916 first and the only way I could get the inserts seatted was to screw them into the shafts.

The screwing would remove a ribbon of aluminum from the inserts, but then I really struggled to get them out to put the hot melt on them.The 2016 are the same. Am I missing something here?

My hands will not take another dozen times of this. Any help would be appreciated!

Hap
Title: Re: insert install help
Post by: TIM B on July 07, 2021, 07:06:23 AM
Maybe the incerts are too big? Or maybe there is leftover glue inside the shaft from previous incerts?  Just some thoughts.....
Tim B
Title: Re: insert install help
Post by: OldRawhide42 on July 07, 2021, 08:25:16 AM
Cut the shaft with a arrow cut off saw. Not a tubing cutter. Deburr the end . Clean the in side of the shaft with acetone . Screw the insert on a tip. Grab the tip with vice grips.     then heat only the insert . Then use hot melt.   
Title: Re: insert install help
Post by: McDave on July 07, 2021, 09:13:04 AM
Quote from: OldRawhide42 on July 07, 2021, 08:25:16 AM
Cut the shaft with a arrow cut off saw. Not a tubing cutter. Deburr the end . Clean the in side of the shaft with acetone . Screw the insert on a tip. Grab the tip with vice grips.     then heat only the insert . Then use hot melt.   

+1. A deburring tool such as this one should make it much easier to install the inserts.

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Title: Re: insert install help
Post by: Alexander Traditional on July 07, 2021, 10:23:03 AM
I know exactly what you are talking about. Some inserts just seem too big. I took something like a dowel and wrapped sandpaper around it and smoothed the inside out. I've deburred and it doesn't help the problem you're having. I've also taken the inserts and hit them with a file. It's a pain,but it's all that will work.
Title: Re: insert install help
Post by: BAK on July 07, 2021, 10:24:11 AM
Another option, I've had very good luck removing the "burr" with just a round chain saw file.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: insert install help
Post by: Hot Hap on July 07, 2021, 12:05:36 PM
These shafts are brand new full length inserts are new in Easton packaging
Inserts fit just fine until last 1/8 inch and then it is get out your sledgehammer
I think I have a deburing tool somewhere in the basement, I will look for it and give it a go with that

Thanks Hap
Title: Re: insert install help
Post by: M60gunner on July 07, 2021, 03:48:47 PM
Not an uncommon issue IME. Just went through this the other day with inserts I took out of the shafts I was installing them in. I make sure both shaft and insert are hot enough then push them against the edge of my workbench. I use a rattail file to remove the burr and I rough up the inside of shaft. Then run a swab with DNA to remove any dirt.