Not sure if this was posted earlier or not. But, the new season of ALONE started last night. One of the contestants is traditional bowhunter and bowyer, Clay Hayes.
Stoked about this. Big fan of his!!
Watched the first show of year #9 of ALONE on Thursday night on the History channel. Clay looks like he's a valid contender for this years $1/2 million dollar prize. He'll need to overcome missing his wife and 2 sons - that could be his undoing. I'll not miss an episode - I hope!
The other problem or thing that might hurt him is that he is pretty skinny.... I got lots to share if he needs some!! :biglaugh:
First time I have watched the show since Clay was to be on it. Enjoyed it much. Watch yer back their Clay. LOL
Here kitty kitty kitty, wow I would of lost it
You can always catch a missed episode by going to history.com web site as they post each episode there after it airs.
One of the few shows I still enjoy watching. I was super excited to see him on there. Seems like he's got a decent chance at it.
So far so good.
For those that still have a provider, you can set your DVR to record first-run-episodes only, then watch them later at your leisure.
Never heard of it. Seldom watch TV, have no dish or cable. :o
Quote from: BAK on June 06, 2021, 08:09:11 AM
Never heard of it. Seldom watch TV, have no dish or cable. :o
I envy you.
Anyway I have a feeling clay won.
Since it was filmed last yr I've notice clay splits his time between living in idaho and Florida in the winter.
Just my guess. Wishing him luck .
Oh and when he said " I should have rushed the mountain lion " I thought whaaat!.
Kevin
Love the show.
Maybe one day they'll have a swamp episode. Begins in spring before the bugs, skeeters and thunder storms get insane. Southern version of frostbite and blizzards..
BAK, you can view the episodes just after they air at www.history.com.
Thanks for the link. Seems I can watch them on the computer.
Don't know why I didn't think of that. Duh.
Go Clay!!!!!!!!!
Hope Clay wins it.
Never met him in person but I have watched, listened to, and read his stuff ....seems like a good guy.
So far Clay looks like the best contestant. Good luck Clay!
I'll also be rooting for Nate as he's from East Jordan, Michigan. Hoping he and Clay make a good showing. Tough conditions to be sure! I do enjoy me some ALONE time, but I also enjoy climbing onto a firm mattress and snuggling into 'My Pillow' each night.
Quote from: blacktailbob on June 06, 2021, 01:32:30 PM
Love the show.
Maybe one day they'll have a swamp episode. Begins in spring before the bugs, skeeters and thunder storms get insane. Southern version of frostbite and blizzards..
They did a swamp season a few years back. The format was different and it wasn't as good as the regular format.
Dave.
Yeah, the show edits, but contestants self film. Actually quite well if you ask me. It's a really neat show overall and I have watched all of the seasons with my wife. I'm impressed, especially in recent seasons, with the skills some of these people have. For crying out loud some dude shanked a musk ox and killed it...I mean the show can drag on a bit but some folks have skills impressive enough for me to want to watch. Most people simply tap out due to loneliness. That guy tapped due to a panic attack this recent episode. Mental toughness is key, and seems like Clay is a killer so should do well.
I feel confident that Clay will represent our passion very well. He's the right one for the challenge. My guess is that Clay will prevail unless he hurts himself. Rumor has it that Tom Hank's little buddy "Wilson" washed ashore while Clay was skinning out something..... :biglaugh:
Now you guys know it's TV, it's like watching Be Witched you know half that stuff ain't real you know. :-)
I'll agree that most of the shows on TV nowadays are staged, but I'm going to have to disagree on Alone being staged. First and foremost I don't see Clay participating in something that would be staged like this. Secondly, the format of the show doesn't lend itself to things being staged very well. Clay certainty couldn't stage that mountain lion coming into his campsite. Thwre is no cameramen there telling them what to do or how to play things up. I don't believe a lot of those shows, but I believe Alone to be a legitimate, show it as it is show.
Quote from: The Whittler on June 09, 2021, 08:45:31 AM
Now you guys know it's TV, it's like watching Be Witched you know half that stuff ain't real you know. :-)
I'm not sure it's wise to assume that this show follows the same format as other 'reality' TV shows. Being "ALONE' and self filming for an undetermined length of time in a natural environment while surviving/thriving on one's personal skills and fortitude seems somewhat different from other shows to me. I'll suppose I'll continue to watch and try to figure out which "half of that stuff ain't real". Being ALONE for 100 days seems REAL to me.
I really enjoy the show.....Their choices are always interesting and the scenery is always beautiful. Fun to watch.
I tape it on Thursday and watch it on Friday so I can fast forward through the commercials, I hate commercials. Matter of fact; I tape every show I like to watch for just that reason.
X2 Eric
Perhaps one day I'd watch it. Sounds interesting
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Quote from: BAK on June 06, 2021, 08:09:11 AM
Never heard of it. Seldom watch TV, have no dish or cable. :o
I envy you.
Anyway I have a feeling clay won.
Since it was filmed last yr I've notice clay splits his time between living in idaho and Florida in the winter.
Just my guess. Wishing him luck .
Oh and when he said " I should have rushed the mountain lion " I thought whaaat!.
Kevin
Based on his videos on Youtube it seems they have been doing that for several years.
Some people are so skeptical about everything. :nono:
It seems we've got a skeptical cat on this thread
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I think as long as you go into it knowing it's not all real,and a lot of it is entertainment. Some are more staged than others. Alone looks like a show I would watch,and I like Clay.
I always hated John Stossle. I guess he found out that not all of it was fake.
I hope Clay does well. He is very articulate and should represent our beliefs well. Mike
Hmmmmm . . . maybe we see more of certain people based on what the editors feel makes for good TV viewing each week. As it's not 'LIVE' television, the editors put together what they want us to see, but that has little/nothing to do with the reality of each contestant's actual experiences. We can each speculate on how real (or not) the show is, but lacking any true inside information, it remains just that - 'speculation'.
Can't remember which episode it was. They dropped the guy off, he walked into the woods where he saw a fresh pile of bear poop. It scared him so bad he went back out to the beach and tapped out. Kinda reminded me of .....you know who
Quote from: BAK on June 06, 2021, 08:09:11 AM
Never heard of it. Seldom watch TV, have no dish or cable. :o
Me neither. I was familiar with Clay tho, so I dialed it up on my phone. History.com if you wanna catch it.
I think we have a troll.
My God talk about negative, must be fun at parties.
I didn't realize this was real....I wanna go home..... waaah ....I miss my dog
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WOW!!!!! Having not walked a mile in their moccasins, I guess I choose not to be so critical and judgemental. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, has their breaking point and each person breaks differently under various circumstances. I'm probably not as wise, nor as tough as y'all, but I'm wise enough to know that I'm as tough as I need to be. I try to not envy those who are better nor criticize those who are not.
Anyway, sorry y'all won't be watching tomorrow night's episode. The rest of us will have some wholesome viewing followed by some constructive conversation around the ole Trad Gang campfire. We'll miss ya.
Quote from: 1Arrow1Kill on June 16, 2021, 09:46:41 PM
WOW!!!!! Having not walked a mile in their moccasins, I guess I choose not to be so critical and judgemental. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, has their breaking point and each person breaks differently under various circumstances. I'm probably not as wise, nor as tough as y'all, but I'm wise enough to know that I'm as tough as I need to be. I try to not envy those who are better nor criticize those who are not.
Anyway, sorry y'all won't be watching tomorrow night's episode. The rest of us will have some wholesome viewing followed by some constructive conversation around the ole Trad Gang campfire. We'll miss ya.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
While u guys r watching someone else have fun I'll be in the woods having fun with my stick and string playing with the bears.
I'll check back in after bear season end and the fish quite bitin to c if clay won...until then enjoy what u enjoy :bigsmyl:
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Quote from: 1Arrow1Kill on June 16, 2021, 09:46:41 PM
WOW!!!!! Having not walked a mile in their moccasins, I guess I choose not to be so critical and judgemental. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, has their breaking point and each person breaks differently under various circumstances. I'm probably not as wise, nor as tough as y'all, but I'm wise enough to know that I'm as tough as I need to be. I try to not envy those who are better nor criticize those who are not.
Anyway, sorry y'all won't be watching tomorrow night's episode. The rest of us will have some wholesome viewing followed by some constructive conversation around the ole Trad Gang campfire. We'll miss ya.
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Well said :goldtooth:
I watched it last night. Some things I find funny! Like the dread locked hippy dude the got his bow string chewed by a mouse.... :laughing: Well, at least he knew how to splice it back together, he moved up a notch in my book :clapper:
Note... From back in my Marine Corp days, NEVER go ANYWHERE without your M-16 (bow)
Also, Why does everyone try and make a fishing pole??? :dunno:
I've seen kids catch more fish with line wrapped around a beer can! Well, maybe they have alot of spare time on their hands.....
Overall? I like it!!! Sure beats watching the news.....
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"The wood booger looked like a wokster but if you saw when he repaired string he checked brace height with fist thumb extended. He a bark biter for sure."
[/quote] What is a wood booger? a wokster? a bark biter? :dunno:
Quote from: Ron LaClair on June 16, 2021, 11:26:21 AM
Can't remember which episode it was. They dropped the guy off, he walked into the woods where he saw a fresh pile of bear poop. It scared him so bad he went back out to the beach and tapped out. Kinda reminded me of .....you know who
Desmond from season two. He lasted 6 hours and bragged in his intro video about the bear should be scared of him.
Quote from: smag on June 18, 2021, 07:58:36 PM
You never been to Portland? Olympia, Seattle, Tacoma, heck anywhere on I-5 corridor?
Pecka Gnats, Antifa's, Earth Muffins guy. Ya know the drill. Mushroom growers.
I know a guy that got 50k tied up in a BC Stone Sheep hunt since 2019 and he paid a bunch already, The cunnuckistani's could care less if he ever gets in BC.
I really think the show is about as real as OCC choppers was. Just my observation. Make no mistake. I made many many 19-22 day patrols and they were a SOB. Lucky to get thru em. So last man standing eating crickets is no small feat.
Smag~
Your right i have lived in the hills of West Virginia my whole 47 years, I can show you hollers where people still live without electricity and running water, but I have never seen anything like what I saw when I visited the coastal region of norcal and oregon. If you want to be amazed just stop in Garberville California sometime.
I get it that negativity and divisiveness seem to have become the new national dialogue. That said, there are members posting here who would be well served to consider where their own states place on lists that indicate quality of life. They might then be less inclined to pontificate about cherry picked sections of and alternative reality perceptions of other states.
Shawn, actually I never mentioned you but since you identify and posted "Still think a lone bat infected the globe Jim"?, you have hit the "alternative reality" nail on the head. I never said such to you!
I just wish all of the negativity about the show would stop. Way too much skepticism and criticism in the world about just about everything. For those who don't like the show, just don't watch it. Let the rest of us poor deceived folks enjoy it.
Thanks David and agreed.
This thread needs to be axed moderators. Smag I won't defend what anyone says, but I will let you know, Jim is perhaps the nicest person on the planet. I have shot with him and fished with him, let's not judge people via the internet. This thread was supposed to be about one of our own. A trad member doing a TV show and has devolved into person attacks of people and their opinions. As a youngster here, I'm disappointed in this thread. This is a great opportunity to revive our sport, which less and less youngsters are picking up everyday. Watch the show or don't. Real or fake I do not care. Let's support clay and drop this stupid internet fighting. Politics has no place here. This is about trad bow hunting and trad bow hunting only. I now see the brilliance in Terry's decision to make it so.
Furthermore, we each have a circle of influence (things we can change) and a circle of concern (this we are aware of but cannot change). We would do well do worry about the circle of influence. As for me, I'm going to shoot my bow.
Dave
Quote from: smag on June 19, 2021, 03:03:08 PM
If you dont care why opine here.
Jim may be what you say. My saved pm's would seem to indicate i blind spot for the obvious.
Im guessing you a cancel culture fella. Just axe opinion other than what you like. Sound familiar.
I made my opinion of Alone. Speaks for what it is. Reality TV , nothing more. I know Clay and met him here in Tenn. Have nothing but love for all the players.
So, why chunk the thread? Make a counter point or just pass the thread on. Jimi jumped on here not about Alone but rather national social justice pointers for the casual bowhunting TGer. Fine but this is a bowhunter site.
HH~
Politics does not belong here period. It's one of the few places I get to go that's not political in nature. Also you're correct as a bow hunter, police officer, married with kids, I sure am cancel culture incarnate. I opine because I simply would just like to visit a place that's respectful and talks about relevant topics. For instance this thread is for alone, says so in the title.
Folks, this thread is about Alone, so stop the foolishness and go start your own thread to bicker on, for heaven's sake!
See what I mean?
Not surprising that they could get into a country, bypassing quarantine and travel restrictions. There were and are multiple examples out there of those with money/power (Hollywood, business, politicians, elites) getting to play by a different set of rules....before, during and after COVID.
Shawn, since you've accused me of being less than honest I'll respond. A while back you were posting about events not needing to be canceled because of health concerns with Covid-19. We exchanged 2 or 3 emails and I asked where you were getting your information about Covid-19. You responded that if i contacted you again about anything other than bows you knew Terry and you would tell him. It came across like a school kid threatening to tell the teacher something. The last PM between us was my reply.
This thread started out as one to cheer on Clay Hayes as he competes on this show. In that light, who needs to care about all the Covid debate? Talk politics on a political forum. Talk traditional archery related stuff on this one. Just my opinion, but I bet I'm not the only one that feels that way.
Thanks Sam and agreed.
These p****** contests accomplish nothing but ruin the thread for those who want to talk archery. And the offenders don't seem to care one bit--one-upmanship I think they call it. Pretty rude.
Idk? I still can't figure out why everyone tries to build a fishing pole :dunno:
Time to pull this thread, good topic gone bad .... Help we need a moderator I'm about to gag, or is that Smag :goldtooth:
There was a time when tradgang was nothing but trad archery related and threads not focused on such would get pulled.
Lately I see threads about coffee, spices and TV shows.
:dunno:
I was disappointed when this thread spiraled out of control. I do believe the topic of Alone is relevant to TradGang in that Clay has oriented his life and his families life around traditional archery. He makes his living showing people how to make self bows, filming his hunts, how to videos that are all related to hunting, survival and traditional archery, making bows. He seams like a wonderful human being, father and husband. I appreciate how he has planned his life to be more about what he believes to be a great environment to raise his family. I had never watched one episode of Alone in the past but this season with Clay I will watch every single episode. I look forward each week to seeing what Clay has come up with and if he has been able to find some good hunting areas out away from his camp that will help him stay for the long haul and win. All I can say is....go Clay I am rooting for you!
I agree that this thread should be shut down.
DISCLAIMER: I know nothing about the film industry, the making of Alone, or laws and regulations pertaining to filming and access to film locations. I am just using a bit of critical thinking in my assessment of this thread.
Yes, we all know Alone is a reality show. And it is likely that none of us know what ACTUALLY goes on behind the scenes, except for the contestants, producers and support personnel, or other REAL insiders. And the producers probably have hundreds of hours of footage to work into the total of 15 or so hours that viewers see, so they can manipulate the story to say whatever they want it to say.
However, I for one believe that the show is made to be as real as possible, within the constraints set forth by the History Channel, show producers, the governments of the filming locations, liability insurance, lawyers, what viewers want to see, etc. Any safety constraints are controlled by two factors: One, the medical personnel are required to check up on the contestants regularly so they don't end up with any deaths or permanent health problems or injuries (for example, frostbite and starvation). And two, each contestant has a satellite phone so they can call and tap out or request help, as seen this season with the guy that has heart problems. As shown in a previous season, when snow conditions prevented the helicopter from flying at night, the support personnel are not immediately on hand to rescue a contestant who called for rescue (though this could be staged to increase the dramatic value). The show has been pretty up front with these two factors as far as I can remember. I have no doubt that as soon as someone died, the show would be canceled completely. No one is going to make money off a canceled show.
As far as getting into Canada during COVID restrictions; the locations are undoubtedly chosen well in advance of filming in order to determine possible contestants, obtain proper licensing or permits for filming and land usage, arrange for the logistics of the entire filming process, determine specific locations for each contestant, and whatever else goes into the making of the show. Therefore, there would have been contracts agreed upon between the entities involved, ie. History Channel and national and/or local governments involved in Canada; many high profile contracts have penalties for not upholding the agreement. I do not know if this would apply to this particular situation, but I would not put it outside the realm of possibility.
I would be lying if I said money had nothing to do with it; money had everything to do with it. History wants to make money, contestants want to win money (Alone has FAR better odds of winning than the lottery or gambling, but I bet 98% of us have tried one or both). I would be surprised if the contestants that don't win didn't receive at least some compensation, because how many people can afford to quit work for weeks or months at a time without at least some payout?
Another thing to consider would be the so called "boot camp" prior to filming, which could have been done in such a way that it counted as a quarantine period prior to entering Canada. And if the contestants are considered "temporary employees" of History and History had prearranged assignments in Canada, or some such work-around to make them essential personnel, instead of tourists going to camp or hunt, then Canada would be obligated to allow them into the country. That is just the way things are. Also, I believe the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) covers intellectual property, so that might play a role as well. Any decent lawyer could make that case. Throw in some "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine", and its a deal. That is just the nature of the beast.
As far as not being able to kill bears, if that is a local law or regulation, participants are obligated to follow such rules. Half of the state in which I live now requires brook trout to be catch and release only; if I don't follow the rules, I may have to pay the price. And I am not internationally televised. So why would a tv show allow contestants to to break the law when everyone will see it?
But in the end, I am rooting for Clay Hayes; any time the general public is exposed to the wonderful world of traditional archery is a win in my book, and I think Clay Hayes is as good an ambassador of the sport as anyone. There appears to be a deer getting smoked when the opening sequence runs; I hope Clay is the one who got it. I start each episode knowing it is reality tv and to take it for what its worth; it is the only tv show currently that I care to watch each episode of. I guess if I didn't enjoy the show, I would just not watch it and not care one way or the other about what other people think about it.
Back to the show; last week was a little bland, no one did anything exceptional and everyone just hung on. I see hunger taking out a few people in the next couple of weeks, lots of shelter building and not much foraging going on, it appears there are a few people who haven't eaten since they got there.
I like to watch Clay's updates after the weekly show on his youtube channel, it seems like he gives hints about the outcome at times but then dispels the possibility and keeps you guessing.
i have been watching ( alone ) for quite awhile, its more fun now that we have one of our own (Clay) to ROOT for. :thumbsup: ....( i guess it would have been legal to kill the cat) since he was going for his bow.
I suspect an iron clad confidentially agreement is a condition of being selected, I can't imaging anyone spilling the beans, it would cost them dearly.
Guys, take a deep breath, I was just alerted to this thread as I had no idea it was this far off topic.... If you don't want to talk about the show... 'A Tradganger that is bowhunting to survive" please don't post.
And, this is not a knife hunting forum either but we talk about them, just like much other stuff we use to hunt, i. e. tents, back packs, thermacells, flash lights.... and yes we drink coffee on hunts, and we cook on hunts and we cook what we kill, Sponsors of such are included. And I'm very thankful to have them.
And I'll challenge to to find much politics here, other than this thread that got de-railed.
Again, take a deep breath and enjoy the day....Y'all are better than this.
:campfire:
Well Said, Terry!!!! Thank you!!
Still trying to figure out the fishing pole thing.... :dunno:
Thanks a million, Terry. :clapper:
Quote from: woodchucker on June 21, 2021, 12:32:34 PM
Well Said, Terry!!!! Thank you!!
Still trying to figure out the fishing pole thing.... :dunno:
Perhaps they are trying to get more distance for a longer retrieve and to get to deeper water?
I started this thread to cheer on one of our own brethren. I know that some people are not up to date with what is going on, it's so easy to have things slip by, so I figured I'd put it out there. You can watch or not watch, it's that simple. I'm sorry I even started it.
Al Dente, no need to apologize, you did nothing wrong by starting it.
I will tell you what amazes me, is that people that have been here for over 13 years enjoying this site and are not contributing members itch, whine, and complain. Its like they think the admins work for them. How pompas and selfish. I am surprised the site hasn't been shut down for good over people like those. Pathetic.
Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
Quote from: Russell Southerland on June 22, 2021, 12:53:33 PM
I will tell you what amazes me, is that people that have been here for over 13 years enjoying this site and are not contributing members itch, whine, and complain. Its like they think the admins work for them. How pompas and selfish. I am surprised the site hasn't been shut down for good over people like those. Pathetic.
Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
I agree, let's put him in charge since 2003 and see how he does!
RJ,
Years ago when I was in the Marines, in an "undisclosed" country south of us... I had the pleasure of watching some of the local kids fishing. Fishing gear was expensive I assume? They would get a spool of line, and split it between them, each wrapping their line around a beer can. Tie on a hook, add a washer or nut for weight, or a stick for a bobber, and they were in business!!!
They would swing the business end around, then let it fly, while pointing the beer can in the direction it was going...
They could easily get as much distance as I could with a spinning rod!! Retreival was just as fast!! They would just hold the line in their fingers, and twirl the beer can around their string hand. Bait, was another interesting thing? They seemed to be able to sgroundge whatever they needed along the bank. Once they caught a fish, they used eyes, inerds, belly strips for bait. It sure was a hoot watching them!!!
Wow, this thread did get off track. Interesting show for sure.
Quote from: ozy clint on June 19, 2021, 10:49:06 PM
There was a time when tradgang was nothing but trad archery related
Can you please show me where that is stated? I'm confused because there is no mention of trad archery.
I hope I didn't 'kill the thread'..... not much interest in posting since I did it seems, which was not my intent. :campfire:
Still here, Terry!!! :thumbsup:
Still trying to figure out the fishin pole thing...??? :dunno:
I'd be trying to do some bow fishing!! :archer: (but I read their only allowed 6 arrows?) :readit:
I'm still here too and can't wait for tonight's episode. :jumper: Your post was sorely needed, Terry. It's so easy for threads to go off the tracks that they need to be brought back on course.
I for one would like to know from someone down under why is it that traditional Bow hunters can't sponsor a traditional Bow hunting website with their products that we use in camp? I doubt I'll get an answer, because there is no rational one.
I never said that traditional bow hunters shouldn't be sponsors regardless of their products. This site has a wonderful list of sponsors with great products.
To get to my point, I wouldn't expect to see a thread about tyres on my truck that I use to drive to hunting
camp. I just always thought tradgang was about trad archery and things of immediate relevance.
No offense intended or taken.
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Quote from: ozy clint on June 19, 2021, 10:49:06 PM
There was a time when tradgang was nothing but trad archery related
Can you please show me where that is stated? I'm confused because there is no mention of trad archery.
Home page, section under the sponsor banners, white text on green background. last sentence- "And please remember- (In bold)Traditional bowhunting topics only!"
You stated trad archery related. Thanks for proving my point.
And you doubled down by stating trad archery again two posts up.
OK, guys, can we just get back to the discussion of Alone? If you don't want to, please start another thread for this stuff that is totally irrelevant to the subject matter in the title of the thread. What part of that don't you get???
I like the show and i like seeing them and hunting to live an extended period with longbows and recurves . Its on tonight my whole family watches it ,its better than the phony mountain man show that comes on before it .
I'm a huge fan of the show too - I think it's pretty real. Sure it's edited, but it's edited from 1000's of hours of self-filming while out there. If you watch the shows, you can literally watch the people that spend significant time out there lose serious weight. They aren't doing that because they choose too...
The fishing rod comment is throwing me on this thread. If you watch the show - some try to not use a rod or some type of device and the brutal wind simply keeps them from getting a bait in the water. Seems that some method of deployment other than hand lining/casting is a must.
they are provided to each contestant, not a counted item.
In the preview for next weeks show it looks like Clay might get a deer.
smag, find another thread. Don't post on this one again, nor push me again.
Ok folks, I'm not good with names... :dunno:
But, the guy who built the boat REALLY impressed me!!!
At first, it looked like a bad accident waiting to happen... :scared:
Now?? It looks like a game changer!!! :clapper:
Also, he seemed to really kinda keep his cool when buck naked against a Grizzly Bear :o
(So much for "Naked & Afraid" lmao)
Thanks, Terry. Yes, the boat thing looks like it could be a big help. The previews of next week did show Clay shooting at something. Hope he scored. So far things have been really slow in the food gathering. That has to change.
Fell asleep half way through last night's episode, I'll catch the rest tonight. I really liked the fellas boat build (curious to see if he dares try it in rougher weather and bigger waves, I wouldn't!) and the other fella that built the door for his cabin, pretty ingenious!
Terry, thanks for trying to keep this thread on the rails. If I wanted to hear an argument, I'd just do something to make my wife mad. :biglaugh:
I like any program that promotes the outdoors. Good luck to Clay. Decent fellow.
Good morning to everyone especially Woodchucker and Sam McMichael! Hope everyone is well!
As for the fishing rod....
I'm very impressed with some of the ingenious things these folks build!! I also believe that building something, keeps their mind off the isolation. Idle hands, make a busy mind...
Most of the folks "hand lineing" seem to have a problem with a tangle of loose line at their feet. Or, the tangle getting caught up and dragged out... By building a rod, with some type of contraption for a reel, I think they are trying to eliminate that??
Hence the Beer can... (piece of wood?)
It acts like a simple bow fishing reel, providing tangle free line storage and retrieval...
They could throw it out in the morning, when the wind is calm, wedge it in the rocks, and let it set...
They could work on their shelter, gather wood, hunt and forage, while fishing. They could even set out several lines, like snares?? They could also leave them overnight, when fish tend to come into shallow water??
I like the show!!! :clapper:
I was going through all his Alone videos on his you tube channel,because I don't have all that much for channels on the t.v. While I was doing that I ran across this video he made,and just had to put it on here. I think it's one of the coolest things!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEt1m6yEK74&list=RDCMUC-eicAkiRdGLguiS1dS_N9Q&index=4
It looks like if you click on watch on you tube the video does play.
Now thats cool , congratulations to both the young man and dad for getting him out there
My family and I watch no "TV", just DVD's and old programs that we can get ahold of. But I heard about "Alone" on YouTube, and we started watching it together... for one reason: Clay Hayes is a traditional bowhunter, as well as an outdoorsman, and we want to see how he uses his bow and skills to face the challenges of his situation.
We want him to win, because he's "our guy" as a trad bowhunter.
Go, Clay.
I am pretty impressed with the shelters so far. I would've definitely spent time chinking the spaces with moss and mud, then continually build a berm with branches, leaves, and earth. I think only Clay has done that so far.
Laying large pieces of bark doesn't really close those gaps up. With the chilling winds they are experiencing pre-winter, that would be a top priority to keep my shelter as draft free as possible.
They are all adaptive in their own ways and all have different strategies. Pulling for Clay, but all seem to be well suited. It is more a mental game than a physical one, as all have had previous experience and woodsmanship.
Last weeks Alone ended with Clay at full draw on a deer...
Since the season where the guy killed the moose and then ultimately won there has been a steady increase in the number of people choosing to take a bow. I think that most of the contestants have a trad bow with them as one of their 10 items in season 8. I haven't seen that many people besides Clay use theirs much yet. I'm a little surprised that the History Channel lets contestants post comments on their own YouTube channels after each episode, but I am enjoying watching Clay break things down and give his thoughts. I wonder if he has to clear the content before posting or if he is just following the rules of the nondisclosure agreement that I would guess he had to sign.
I think that the show is as real as it can be in the litigious confines of our current society. It is the only show that I actually know when it is broadcast and make a point to watch regularly. Having a member of the traditional archery community to root for is gravy.
The Season 8 location seems like a tough place to make a sustained living off of the land especially following the game and fish restrictions imposed by the local ordinances. I think that if Clay can get some deer on the ground and fight the loneliness factor he is a strong contender.
My other pick is the guy that built the boat. Fishing near shore seems to be a low odds proposition. That boat could be a game changer.
The one chubby guy with the long hair might be looney enough to keep from being lonesome if he can find food.
Gregg, I agree 100% and think the guy with the boat is a strong contender.
Clays a good hunter and shot so hopefully he does get the buck he's shooting at, that would be a game changer. I don't understand why some of these contestants don't hunt more, but spend a lot of time doing things that won't feed or shelter them. Foods gonna get scarce as time progresses into winter.
I think the long hair chubby guys name is Riki?
He his looney to be sure!! LOL But if you look at a few things he did, I think he's gonna be around awhile....
He forged a "Bear Shank" out of an old nail.... :readit:
AND, He swam across the bay in 50 degree water, :o to scout a better place to hunt & fish!!
I think his name is Biko or something like that. He has some real things going for him. He has some skills. He has more body mass to yield. Most importantly, his family seems to be a strong motivational factor for him to stay rather than leave.
Clay actually thinks like a hunter, because he is one, meaning he is not just ambling about, but actually scouting the land. He backed out of the little deer yard, and went back the next day in with a purpose.
Most have a bow, but seem to have no plan to really use it, or maybe that is edited out. Dave in Mongolia hunted deer, over many days. He found trouble in Patagonia stringing the 60# bow once he got weak, but he did set up for boar. He had a plan. Britt, in Mongolia, shot but missed or wounded, as he was a novice bow hunter. At least he had his bow with him. One guy from Tenn, season 7, says he set up for bear, IIRC. Roland had the bow, and took the shot. Michelle Finn might have done better, had she taken the shot quickly on the grouse.
But on Vancouver Island, if I recall correctly, no one went away from shore to hunt the deer in the clear cuts. Puma were there, so deer would be, but no one set up blinds or ambush sites.
Local game regulations are subtracting from the options to survive, I agree. Hard place as a result, yet they still need to start on day 1 getting the calories, imho. Instead of going in on Day 1 and making noise cutting and sawing, maybe go in like a sniper (or hunter, lol), getting a temp. camp in some bear-deterring deadfall, and then really hunt what is there. Wait a few days before scaring away all the deer and grouse with the home building.
This show format penalizes the lean, more "cardio" people who otherwise would simply hike to a more productive area to gather, hunt. Seasonality of resources played an immense part of our ancestors. Clay is one of those cardio people, like Michelle, as are many others on this show. Clay scouts out the hunting zones, and seems much more focused on the food, like others with the fish and boat... If Biko starts killing, it is all over, however.
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Is it Thursday "night" yet .... I want to see somebody smoking a deer :goldtooth:
Twenty-five days in and we're down to five contestants remaining. Clay's chances are improving . . . deer heart for dinner and smoked venison for several days. Hope the bears don't walk down-wind of his smokehouse.
Now if he can just keep his emotions in check... Starting to see a pattern seems likes once a contestant starts speaking about their loved ones they soon tap out.
Nice to see Clay be successful in this most recent episode. Hopefully, he can stretch the rewards out and repeat his performance. I heard Biko talk about his rules and how one of them was to always have his bow with him, but you don't see that in this episode. I think that is an example of the editing choices made after the fact.
Nice taxidermy!
Looks better than some of the heads that I see hanging in bars.
Clay says he fished for hours many days without catching a single fish. Wonder if he tried to dig some live bait from the forest or use a piece of venison as bait to up his chances. He made a good decision to eat only a small ration of venison each day. Still concerned that a bear will break into his smoke house and eat his venison stash.
I don't think they can use live bait in that lake.
I was certainly impressed with Clay's "Bear Alarm" around his smokehouse!!! :thumbsup:
I was too. Very clever and creative to use what he had like that. Over the various seasons I have seen some pretty creative things. Go Clay :clapper:
30 minutes to the next episode - 9:30pm EST. Can't Wait. Hoping Clay keeps doing well. Have a feeling someone's tapping out tonight - bear scare!
Someone did but not due to bear scare--I won't say more right now that might ruin the adventure for those who may be watching later.
Crazy Biko, seems to be hanging in there!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I was supprized to learn that he intentionally put on weight before going in... (he was up to 300#)
I think that was a smart move, like a bear building up fat for winter...
One thing I think more should do, is eat as much as you can, when you have it. With Native Americans, it was usually feast or famine. When a hunting party was successful, everyone ate!!! When times were lean, they ate what they could. (Elm bark) Trying to store food in bear country seems to be a big risk for loss. Maybe better to eat it than loose it? Stay well nourished for as long as you can.... After all, it's an endurance game.
Clay also attempted to put on as much weight as he could. He has a video on his youtube channel about that, but he said his metabolism makes it hard to put on any weight.
Alone is not on this week? The guide shows a Mountain Man special. Is that correct?
That's what I found on my listings also, Mountain Men are scheduled in the Alone time slot. - John
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Me too! :dunno:
Your showings must be a week ahead of my cable provider (Rectum). Just checked the DVR Scheduled Recordings function and it's showing one each of MM and alone for Thurs. night at the normal times. I think last week was Clay's bear encounter episode.
Quote from: olddogrib on July 29, 2021, 06:30:28 PM
Your showings must be a week ahead of my cable provider (Rectum). Just checked the DVR Scheduled Recordings function and it's showing one each of MM and alone for Thurs. night at the normal times. I think last week was Clay's bear encounter episode.
Is there really a cable provider called "Rectum"? Seems like if I thought hard enough, even I could come up with a better name.
On a different note... I hope that the show airs tonight. That's a new family ritual every Thursday night.
According to Google there's no show tonight. Episode 9 (The Troll) will be shown August 5th. - John
My bad, I didn't notice the date 8/5 on the Scheduled Recordings. My mind's not the "steel trap" that it used to be. I didn't get Mountain Men either. Archie, my cable provider is Spectrum (formerly TimeWarner). 'Rectum' is merely my "love handle" for them....and I think even less of them today!
They probably postponed until after the Olympics for better viewer attention. I've noticed that with other TV shows. :dunno:
Quote from: Pat B on July 30, 2021, 10:03:05 AM
They probably postponed until after the Olympics for better viewer attention. I've noticed that with other TV shows. :dunno:
Sports are dead to me. The left is wrecking pretty much everything they touch,
The ratings are in the toilet for the Olympics. Men's Basketball, woman's soccer, and women's gymnastics ALL got crushed. No, I didn't watch, just saw it on real news site, not any MSM fake news propaganda agenda driven activist network. Maybe they should bring back the 'regularly scheduled programing'.
Quote from: Terry Green on July 30, 2021, 12:49:02 PM
The ratings are in the toilet for the Olympics. Men's Basketball, woman's soccer, and women's gymnastics ALL got crushed. No, I didn't watch, just saw it on real news site, not any MSM fake news propaganda agenda driven activist network. Maybe they should bring back the 'regularly scheduled programing'.
^^This!^^
I tried to give a possible explanation why Alone wasn't on at it regular time. Pretty simple and plausible statement. I didn't look at the ratings for the Olympics,I didn't need to. I've always enjoyed watching the Olympics every 2 years. And I thought politics and bashing folks was unaccepted here on Trad Gang. I guess that is only directed to the liberals who are supposedly "wrecking pretty much everything they touch" and watching "MSM fake news propaganda agenda...". I guess my opinion doesn't matter here.
Well, I thought Pat B had a reasonable explanation. Anyone have a better one? :dunno:
I think TradGang should be a TV show.... :archer: :campfire: :archer:
Ain't no cure for the summer time blues. :biglaugh:
Pat, I didn't say one word about politics. I was talking about the so called news, which is NOT the news I grew up with. Again, I said nothing about politics. I also didn't bash anyone, if so please give me their name. And the Olympics are not every 2 years, they are every 4 years.
:campfire:
Well now I have to go apologize to my lovely bride for blaming her Olympics recordings overriding my Alone recording .... I guess i didn't miss the excitement after all. :jumper: :biglaugh:
Terry they're every two years, not every four. They alternate summer and winter every two years.
Maybe they need to have a series that will last for a certain amount of time on the history channel. A show like Alone doesnt necessarily have a hard set ending date, so maybe it ended quicker than they expected and they needed to skip a week in order to meet their required deadline? They might just use Mountain Men as a filler.
Ah yes, in that aspect for sure. :thumbsup:
The winner is: CLAY HAYES
2nd Place is: BIKO
Outstanding ALONE Season 8 for sure! 73 grueling days. Congrats to Clay - a true Traditional Bow Hunter . . . to the end!
Yes, just watched final. Congratulations Clay!!
:thumbsup: :notworthy: :campfire: :archer2: :archer: :clapper:
I kind of had a feeling he would win it but it was still exciting to watch! Awesome!
He said it best when reciting the poem at the end.
" we trade our life for money" something like that anyways. Not something I would want to do.
I can barely stand a week alone when elk hunting.
Well good on him and his family.
Kevin
CONGRATULATIONS, Clay!!!!! :clapper: :clapper: :clapper: :archer: :clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
Actually, I thought he was gonna win..... But, I found myself routing more and more for Biko...
No job, no real future plan, pregnant wife and TWINS on the way....
A man who would starve himself, pretty much living on onion soup, to give his family a half million dollar future,
pretty much has my vote!!!
Congrats Mr. Hayes! If your looking to join an elite team of highly specialized survivalist look me up. You can find me wherever trouble brews, Supreme Leader and Captain of F. R. O. G out. :goldtooth:
Woodchucker, I agree 100% on Biko, but I really liked Coulter.
I had my whole family watching it and had picked Clay from day one. I was sending my family videos Clay had made to reinforce my decision. I hope the other players are paid something.
While I liked Biko's character I think starvation kind of ruins these kind of games. If your plan is to go in and just have more fat than your opponent then why don't we turn the biggest loser into alone. Overall I'm very glad that Clay won out.
I really don't think Biko's game plan was to "out starve" the others???
He was REALLY trying to find food, just bad luck finding it...
He was in a real windy spot, making casting difficult to catch fish, though he did catch a few!
His gill net while well made, was largely unsuccessful..... The dude tried to boil and eat PINE BARK!!
He did pack on pounds before, going in at 300+# but that was because it's common knowledge that EVERYONE in past season looses an enormous amount of weight. He had the mental strength to convince himself, that everything he was doing, and going through, was for his family.
clay even tried to pack on weight before going, but hes just a skinny dude.
Quote from: arrow30 on August 20, 2021, 07:32:25 PM
clay even tried to pack on weight before going, but hes just a skinny dude.
He did and the contestants definitely lose weight. Gill net on a log and when it doesn't work out it just further down? His building top notch. His food gathering? Eh just kinda gave up.
Quote from: woodchucker on August 20, 2021, 07:05:24 PM
I really don't think Biko's game plan was to "out starve" the others???
He was REALLY trying to find food, just bad luck finding it...
He was in a real windy spot, making casting difficult to catch fish, though he did catch a few!
His gill net while well made, was largely unsuccessful..... The dude tried to boil and eat PINE BARK!!
He did pack on pounds before, going in at 300+# but that was because it's common knowledge that EVERYONE in past season looses an enormous amount of weight. He had the mental strength to convince himself, that everything he was doing, and going through, was for his family.
Pine just beneath the bark is eatable and I have eaten it. Better roast it than boil. I'm sorry Biko is a great guy and some of his skills are impressive. Shelter building etc. With his weakness from starvation he really wasn't doing much in the food gathering other than onions. Very good but definitely didn't deserve the win.
I really wonder how long some of these people would go if they were on an environment where they could actually thrive and the alone factor was the biggest thing they really dealt with.
Great job to Clay. I enjoyed the season.
CONGRATULATIONS, Clay!!!!!
Way to go Clay!!!!
Fabulous representation....Congrats Clay!!!!