Hello everyone, still enjoying this new journey into the traditional world. Slowly getting better everyday. What all options are out there for 3:1 ratio broadheads? Ive seen the Tuffheads and Woodsman 3 blades but havent came across many others yet. Prefer a 2 blade and will likely be aiming around 175 to 200gr give or take a little. Thanks in advance!
Also know of Grizzly.
Only the Kodiak grizzly is 3-1 according to specs on their website.
I have used a 3:1 single bevel.... Screw in.
I got mine from a guy in Australia at a nice price of $60 for a dozen Broadheads....
I have one burried in the back of a Beaver skull....
MikeG- was that a private sale or is there someone making them in Australia that I don't know about?
The Gentleman that made them had a Business.
But please don't ask me to remember who, I have trouble most days trying to remember if I had lunch....
I do remember that he would ship you the order and then after you got them, You paid him.
Until someone refused to pay him....
The ones I have are 125 gr.... I think I still have 11 of them, The 12 one is in the Beaver Skull....
Text me, And I'll send you a picture of the Skull 209-968-4179
Davie's Heads?
Outback supreme?
Tusker broad heads?
I have no Idea who I got them from....
I can take a picture and send it to one of you and you can post it here..
Sure....
tarz@tradgang.com
Since you you stated that you are relatively new to traditional archery, I don't have much of an answer for you, other than don't necessarily think that you need to be using a "3:1" broadhead. There are other options available that may even work better for you, depending on what bow/arrow you are using and the game that you are chasing.
Outback Broadheads in Australia make a head called the 'Supreme' that comes in 130gn and 200gn for screw in, and 230gn for glue on. That might be one of the ones being referred to in this thread.
The Supreme is one of my favourite heads but the cutting edge comes back past the front of the arrow so if your arrows are cut fairly short for your draw length you might find the heads impact the shelf of your bow. It's obviously only a minor issue.
The company also makes broadheads called 'Stealths' that are close to a 3:1 ratio as well.
Quote from: flyonline on May 30, 2021, 07:40:48 PM
Outback supreme?
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Quote from: pdk25 on May 31, 2021, 04:55:07 PM
Since you you stated that you are relatively new to traditional archery, I don't have much of an answer for you, other than don't necessarily think that you need to be using a "3:1" broadhead. There are other options available that may even work better for you, depending on what bow/arrow you are using and the game that you are chasing.
Def understand that. Ive been archery hunting and shooting compounds for close to 20 years now. Just new to the traditional game. I just figure for this first year a 3:1 or relatively close to it will be my best mechanical advantage. Will be whitetail hunting but current bow is 35lb@28in rd longbow. I figure heavy arrow, good mechanical advantage head and shots inside 20yds should produce nice results. I do appreciate all input though from everyone!
Well, if I was using that setup, I personally would certainly be using a 2 blade, and probably a long skinny one at that. Good luck. In the right spot, and it probably won't matter on deer anyway. Good luck. I hunted with compounds for around 27 years before I made the switch. Lot's of fun ahead of you.
Ace Broadheads should have what you want
Okay, As mentioned above, It is the Australian Broadhead co.
Duh.. :knothead: I finally did a search and found it...
I still have 11 of them, The 12th is in the Beaver skull.
I never considered the outback supreme when trying to think of Aussie made 3:1 heads for this thread because they aren't 3:1. Just like the grizzly heads aren't 3:1 with the exception of the kodiak.
Yeh. The front page of their website says 3:1 but when you read the description of the Supreme in the shop section it says "close to a 3:1 ratio".
Quote from: ozy clint on June 01, 2021, 05:08:32 PM
I never considered the outback supreme when trying to think of Aussie made 3:1 heads for this thread because they aren't 3:1. Just like the grizzly heads aren't 3:1 with the exception of the kodiak.
Thays trie, but very few are, technically the kodiak isnt either from specs ive seen. But somewhere in the 2.5+ -3 range is better than a lot of options out there.
Quote from: Wilderlife on June 01, 2021, 05:14:55 PM
Yeh. The front page of their website says 3:1 but when you read the description of the Supreme in the shop section it says "close to a 3:1 ratio".
Ha ha, I noticed that. :laugh: nothing like a bit of marketing.
Quote from: Kmaddox2a on June 01, 2021, 06:07:31 PM
Quote from: ozy clint on June 01, 2021, 05:08:32 PM
I never considered the outback supreme when trying to think of Aussie made 3:1 heads for this thread because they aren't 3:1. Just like the grizzly heads aren't 3:1 with the exception of the kodiak.
Thays trie, but very few are, technically the kodiak isnt either from specs ive seen. But somewhere in the 2.5+ -3 range is better than a lot of options out there.
According to 3Rivers the Kodiak's are 3 1/8" x 1 3/16", so your right, not quite 3:1.
They aren't 3:1 but I'm using Zwickey No Mercy on my arrows.
I agree on the zwickey no mercy being a good starting point if you can't find a true 3:1.
Quote from: ozy clint on June 02, 2021, 04:35:46 AM
Quote from: Kmaddox2a on June 01, 2021, 06:07:31 PM
Quote from: ozy clint on June 01, 2021, 05:08:32 PM
I never considered the outback supreme when trying to think of Aussie made 3:1 heads for this thread because they aren't 3:1. Just like the grizzly heads aren't 3:1 with the exception of the kodiak.
Thays trie, but very few are, technically the kodiak isnt either from specs ive seen. But somewhere in the 2.5+ -3 range is better than a lot of options out there.
According to 3Rivers the Kodiak's are 3 1/8" x 1 3/16", so your right, not quite 3:1.
I always suspected that 3:1 was some rule of thumb that through lore somehow became a rule.
Is there any science behind that ratio for a broadhead anyway?
Close has to be close enough
for sure somewhere around 3:1 will have beneficial penetration attributes. doesn't have to be exact.
Howard Hill heads
Years ago there were extensive field trials done on African game. It came out of that. That ratio was the optimum for penetration. Other things were shown as well. Twp blades penetrate better than three. Three does better than four. Heavy arrow produce better momentum to aid in penetration.
I suspect that someone here can post a link to the study.
I have killed a couple of deer with Schulz Hunter's Heads, a few with Eskimos, and one with a Grizzly on cedar tapered arrows with my 38 at my 26" draw. Only once did I not get complete penetration. That was with the Grizzly, the deer jumped on release and the arrow hit the right rump and stopped at the front left shoulder. The arrow disappeared in the deer, but the deer went down in about 100 yards, with a good enough blood trail to follow with a pen flashlight.
I appreciate everyones input, i decided for now to try out a Zwickey Eskimo glue on with a 75gr steel threaded adapter for a total at 200gr.