I just got off the phone with a mutual friend, that will not nor never, be mentioned that agrees with me....
People come into you life and portray to be your best friend.... but soon as bigger antlers or tusk show up
This lifestyle is suppose to be about success AND friendships........ but some have other motives....FAME, FORTUNE AND NOTERIETY Beware is all I'm saying. Sorry, been holding it in for over 3 years...... as have others...
Luv.....TG
Been there......Good times!!
Yep, been there, well said. Even though I have never met you, Terry you can share my campfire any time! :campfire:
Yes, Terry, I've seen it REAAALLL close to home. All you can do is keep your real friends very close and be thankful for them. It's pretty sick what that greed can do to some folks....
R
That's a sucky situation. Haven't ran into it with hunting, but I don't have any spots that warrant others' attention! :biglaugh:
Gotta figure out who's there for the long haul and stick with them. The rest will come and go.
Thanks guys..... :campfire:
Ryan.... anytime Sir.... :campfire:
Yes Sir a true friend is a real blessing. Had my share of "buddies" that just wanted or needed something then were gone. Makes you appreciate the good ones. I've always looked at it that the turds will never know what it means to have a true friend......
Some monkees will do anything for a few inches of bone.
Let em go.
To much livin to do to worry about those folks.
Hunting with a single string is about more than that.
Shawn~
So many have contacted me off line... thx
Been there a couple of times. Stinks.
People come and go, but true friends are forever. I'm glad to say I have a true friend who is as close to me as a brother. We started shooting traditional together 30 years ago next year. He has moved twice since we've know each other, first to the U.P. of Michigan, then to Pennsylvania where he currently lives, we have always stayed in touch, and have shared hunting camps together. I have sat in his stands and he has sat in mine with no reservations, when i go to visit/hunt with him I put no expectations on the hunt, it has always been about time spent together. So i guess short story long, have faith Terry there are good people out there, and let the bad ones roll off your back like the rain and be washed away.
Jason
Having someone "befriend" you solely for their benefit would be difficult to stomach, but you have to let them go. Keep your integrity and morales sound, move on. Luckily I have never had a situation like that, but with success comes people who want what you have. Sorry for your grief.
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Been there. A lot have gotten out of touch with what "hunting" is about and i fear it keeps getting worse... It's about having fun in the woods and sharing the passion and comradary. When it becomes more than that hard feelings start and usually it doesn't end well.
That sucks big time, Terry.
Keep your head up and take the high road..
Terry, sorry you had the experience. I'm in a line of work that has taken me around the country on projects with lots of people. Few have ever greatly surprised me and I like a large majority of the people I've known but really good friends have been and remain few.
Man, I am sorry to hear about you situation. I hope that it is just a misunderstanding, as life can get pretty busy at times. My best friend lives in Ohio, and I only get to hunt with him once or twice a year, but I truly believe that he would be just as happy if I shot something as if he did, and I know that I would be just as happy if not happier for him to shoot something instead of me.
Terry, thank you for sharing.
Positive relationships where both parties benefit are what makes everything worthwhile in life. Unfortunately, many people don't realize that until they've burned all the bridges for short term gains.
I'm 71 now, and I can count the number of true friends I have ever had on the fingers of one hand. :dunno:
My Mom told me once that if you find one good friend in your life your blessed. I've personally seen friendships ruined by selfishness and jealousy. When I was younger I tolerated those kind of people more but now that I'm older when I see traits of jealousy, selfishness, I push them kind of people away from me. Life is to short to put up with those kind of people.
Truth is its so often hard to tell. All you can do, is offer friendship and if that gets used in some way against you or disrespected, then walk away knowing you did right with head high. In the long run it's their loss, and bone or tusks don't show up on weekends to help you shift house, or share a beer.
Ive had similar happen to what you describe, and it sucks! But then It makes me think about my real mates and appreciate them and the things they do more.
Just recently I had to think about pulling out of a big hunting trip due to a few factors like step daughter heading off to University making spare money tight. I told the guys I couldn't go, and got told, "nah, you're coming, I got this."
In the end I didn't need the help, but I will never forget the offer!
My experience is, it will work out the best for you Terry, and the worst for them as the good people drop away and they are only left surrounded by others like them.
Terry, sorry you had a bad experience with a supposed "friend". It's a bummer and I can relate from my own personal experiences. Keep your head up and keep being who you are.
I can count on one hand the "true" friends I have in life with a few fingers left over and that's fine with me. I'd rather have a very small amount of true friends than a large number of phonies.
There are always users, I haven't forgotten a single one of them either. Stay on course buddy. :thumbsup:
Sorry to see this Terry.
I appreciate these guys every day. Most of them I've known and hunted with for thirty years.
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I agree that most people can and will disappoint you. God created us with that within us and from the time of Adam we've been doing it.
All of us have a weakness. Some it is antlers. Others fall to alchohol or drugs. Some to a new wife who doesn't like you or want them to be friends with you.
I have some friends who are family to me. Having never had money, good looks or a charming personality I've always tried to make up for it by being there to help. Whether it's a busted trailer hub on the side of the road or just having them over for Christmas dinner after they get divorced.
Mom said to have a friend you have to be one. But I've also learned that I just need to do what is right and that is all I can control.
Casual friends are a blessing as well. Fun to share camp with, work beside, or other activities like scouting.
Hopefully time will help with the pain you feel from this.
It's always a punch in the gut when someone becomes someone you didn't think they were.
I wish I had a friend that was closer. But when you find a true friend, you embrace it and hold on no matter the distance.
Terry, sorry for the bad experience! Know that you are not alone; many of us have had to deal with similar situations based on my own experiences and what I have read here. The key, as many have stated, is to Take the high road, move on so that it does not consume you. The issue is theirs! Know you have lots of friends here for support!
Most of my hunting buddies are just acquaintances, have two true friends, one close and the other were I grew up.
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Terry, sorry you had to go through that. Jawge
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Thx guys... 3 others have chatted with me about the same person..... he has disappeared as well from them...
And for the record.. its been over 3 years for all of us...those antlers must be REAL REAL REAL Big.
Never understood antlers being something to get so upset over. I was after a really big old U.P. buck this fall. Saw him twice during bow season but never got a chance. Opening day of rifle season I filled my second tag on a decent 10 point and my buddy saw nothing so I sent him to that spot thinking he'd see one of the bucks in that area. As luck would have it that big one came out and he shot what is the biggest deer I have ever seen or put my hands on. A monster for here for sure. While I was maybe a bit jealous, I was super happy for him and still am. Absolutely no hard feelings over it and we're already planning for next year. Real hunting buddies enjoy the successes of their buddies along with them, not sit there jealous.
Gotta pick those 3 carefully!
Need that shirt!!!
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Terry, I was sorry to hear that you had such an unfriendly experience. Unfortunately, that seems to common, but it seems worse when its done by a hunting buddy. When I was in high school a good friend's dad told me that you will have many, many acquaintances in life but very few really true and loyal lifelong friends. Sadly, that seems to be true.
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Seen it happen and had it happen to me. It is sad and honestly, those individuals will never be happy no matter how large the antlers are. Selfishness and greed are something that can never be satisfied.
This community is more than just trad bows or trad hunting. It's about respect for those who chose a path that is different than the masses. It's about those willing to set ego and pride aside and learn from others and the outdoors. It's about learning from our failures and not instant gratification.
There are some, no matter the weapon, that will never understand.
I love the quote, "if you Lend a friend $20.00. And you never see them again, it's money well spent".
Mark
Quote from: Marksman Quivers on February 11, 2021, 07:39:24 PM
I love the quote, "if you Lend a friend $20.00. And you never see them again, it's money well spent".
Mark
I've gotta remember that one...good stuff.
How often we become enamored with the things that are temporary and passing in leu the lasting treasures.
Preoccupation with self frequently illumines our besetting shortcoming.
How often have I fallen on my own sword.
Dang Terry. I'm sorry. That really sucks. True friends are precious. Maybe his payback will come!
Kind of reminds me of guys I knew who would do anything and tell anything to a girl (including one you liked) to get in her pants and then screw her and split never to be heard from again and ruin it for any honorable guy afterwards.
It's NOT about jealousy...it's about using and back stabbing.
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It's always a punch in the gut when someone becomes someone you didn't think they were.
Yep! Been there, done that! And it sucked!
Bisch
Sorry to hear you went through that Terry. Traditional archery/bowhunting should be so much more than that.
Years ago, probably around 12 years old I went squirrel hunting with a "friend"
( back then nobody much cared about whose property you were on ) unbeknownst to me he had sat right at the edge of a ladies yard because there were pecan trees there. I went down the hill to a creek and sat down. I heard him shoot 3 times , then heard a screen door slam and this lady calls out " who's that shooting back there " my "friend" promptly called out not his name but mine.
Been a little Leary of "friends" since then.
There called "Opportunistic Friends" I have/had a couple in my life.
Sorry you went through that but everyone does. Be glad he's not in your life right now. There's some guys that will never understand friendship or being happy for someone else. I'm like you I've got a core group of guys I've hunted with a long time. I'll give them spots, they try their best to help me. The fact they appreciate everything we have means more than anything.
I once had lots of expendable money, I once was extremely healthy, they've both since shifted into different realities. These guys still are the same with me. Our friendship is the same. Be glad you have that and don't let him get under your skin. It's his flaw not yours.
While we're on this though it reminds me a little of what my uncle used to say bout friends and hunting. He said they're all seemingly great til hunt season gets close and they wanna pee on a rock. In a sense mark territory, exclaim ownership, they care only about themselves.
Imo more trad guys have passed that point. Many are long time hunters. Not all but many. All we can do is enjoy our hunt, pass it on, help others and not sweat yesterday's bad friends. It'll weigh us down
Been there, no longer my friend :dunno:
had a few of these over the years, Mike
Sorry to hear . I found that if you want to know your true hunting buddies , get on a lease with them ...WOW
Wow this post brought up some memories.
Very interesting comments... thanks guys. Just venting . NOT, going to stop being who I am.
BTW. got a new 'aquantance' in Texas again... feel for him..... he's chasing javies on sub zero weather... and he hiked in over 2 miles and is camping ... btw, feel for all those on the pbs forum.
Hopefully, ground shrinkage of the largest rack will enlighten them to the true treasure.
Yeah Scott.... seems i was just a 'convenient' friend of the times..... sign of the times if you ask me....
Scott's right, he will probably count the cost. I work with a guy who's Uncle deleted all his buck pics off his trail camera so he wouldn't think his spot was productive. Then Uncle would hunt it on his nephews days at work.
Now that's cold blooded PossunHead. Well planned, but cold.
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Sorry to read of this. I've known few people that weren't there for what's in it for them. When you find one, stay close.