Selling my wheel bow, as soon as that's gone I'm ordering a Black Widow recurve, and am looking at arrows.
Looking at the Beman Centershot or Dark Timber arrows, havent seen the Dark Timber shafts in person and wondering if anyone has used both if you have a preference.
Going to be shot from a 47# BW at my 28" draw with Palmer Extreme 4 blade heads for whitetail and turkey until I can make it back out west after different game.
I shot some of the Dark Timber,when they were passed around. They are very good arrows,and the price is very good.
I'm sure I will order some in the future.
With that being said I have some 500 full length Center Shot that are some of the easiest arrows I've ever tuned. I will always keep some on hand.
Similar question on another site. It was mentioned that Beeman won't be making this shaft in 2021. It will appear as an Easton shaft.
I was gifted one to try. After shooting a round with it I went home and ordered a doz. I may order more soon.
I'm not honestly sure that I would believe an internet rumor about an arrow manufacturer not producing those shafts anymore.
Plus Easton and Beman have been under the same ownership for years now that isnt a new development.
I asked Big Jim about them,because I didn't know if he was going to phase them out,and just sell the Dark Timbers.
He said Easton was going to get rid of the Beaman line,and it would be the same arrow just under the Easton name.
Big Jim only has the 400 spine right now.
Well as long as they are going to stay being made i couldnt care less what the label is as long as they are the same specs haha.
So back to my original question I guess-Dark Timber or the easton/beman centershot?
I shoot only Dark timber great arrow. Great price. Might have to wait on your spine size to become available but that is the only drawback in my opinion
I shot the Beeman centershots for 2 years. This year I ordered 1/2 dozen Dark Timbers to try out and promptly ordered another 1/2 dozen. The Dark Timbers seem to be easier to tune for me and they are quieter in a back quiver.
The center shots are just tough. I thought Black Eagle Vintage were tough but these are double tough.
Only complaint is the smaller diameter means smaller insert weights if you go that way and right now none are available.
check your dark timbers for straightness before you cut and put wraps on them, last batch i got were to crooked to hunt with. i was disappointed.
Looks like I can get 75 gr inserts for the centershots as well which is nice. Ill likely foot them just to make a super durable arrow
Quote from: Iowabowhunter on November 24, 2020, 09:16:59 PM
Oops like I can get 75 gr inserts for the centershots as well which is nice. Ill likely foot them just to make a super durable arrow
Well don't bogart the source!!!
Hah just realized 3 rivers is out. Interesting that they wouldn't have them in stock. Still shows its ordersble so just tells me that they are gearing up for the move to Easton, but you'd think they would have them available
Both are great arrows. I have shot the Dark Timbers since Big Jim came out with them and I really like them.
Quote from: Alexander Traditional on November 24, 2020, 02:09:02 PM
I asked Big Jim about them,because I didn't know if he was going to phase them out,and just sell the Dark Timbers.
He said Easton was going to get rid of the Beaman line,and it would be the same arrow just under the Easton name.
Thanx for the heads up. Ordered a dozen 400s and a dozen 340s this morning.
I picked up 6 Dark timber arrows in a trade, and I gotta tell you they are really good shafts and I like them
https://eastonarchery.com/arrows_/carbon-legacy/
This is the arrow that's replacing the Beman Centershot. The GPI is not quite the same (except for the 500 spine), and the straightness is not the same (.006 versus .003).
I have a couple of the new ones to play with, but haven't gotten around to shooting them yet.
I may just pick up a couple more dozen center shots before they are gone.
Arrow30, why wouldn't you bring that to our attention? I have seen 1 arrow in 10,000 that would have fallen outside the .006 specs. I haven't even had a single complaint about straightness either... not saying you didn't have issues.
Pretty good poke... the carbon legacy is not going to replace the centershots. They are their own individual arrow.
The cenershot went from a beaman centershot to a easton centershot and other than label should have no other changes.
The Legacy was/is supposed to be the easton arrow with a slightly better price point... however, since they have a MAP on it as they do on most of their other shafts, it will actually be more expensive than the centershots from us anyway.
Most sell the centershots for upwards of $90 per dz. Since there isn't a MAP on centershots, we can sell them for $69.99 per dz.
We received some 500 spine dark timbers just before Thanksgiving and still have some 400 spine in stock. I have several thousand dz shafts on order, it has just been hard to get them this year.
BigJim
Quote from: BigJim on November 29, 2020, 03:14:09 PM
Pretty good poke... the carbon legacy is not going to replace the centershots. They are their own individual arrow.
The cenershot went from a beaman centershot to a easton centershot and other than label should have no other changes.
The Legacy was/is supposed to be the easton arrow with a slightly better price point... however, since they have a MAP on it as they do on most of their other shafts, it will actually be more expensive than the centershots from us anyway.
Most sell the centershots for upwards of $90 per dz. Since there isn't a MAP on centershots, we can sell them for $69.99 per dz.
Big Jim,
The Centershots are not in the lineup for 2021. They are not on Easton's 2021 price sheet, nor are they in Easton's 2021 catalog. They have some left, but when they are gone, they are gone.
I stand corrected.. My rep allowed me to order a whole slew of centershots without telling me they decided to drop them. I don't pay much attention to the catalogue or price lists unless the prices change.
We will have abot 20 dz of all the sizes of centershot in stock .. until they are gone.
BigJim
I have shot both, but would have to lean to Big Jim by far because he is a sponsor here and he's the only one that has spoken up on this thread.
And, I know Jim is going to put out 1st rate goods always!!!!
Would I be able to use 400 spine Dark Timbers with a 55x31 draw? Shooting a longbow D/R, FF string. Thanks in advance. , Arrows will be for hunting only.
Car54, if what you are saying is 55 lbs @ 31"s, yes... that is perfect for 400's. Don't know why you would only use them for hunting. They are great for anything.
BigJim
Yes, 55lbs x31 draw. Thanks BJ.