I've always felt the added mass of a bow quiver allowed me to shoot better. Played around with bare bow, never noticed a shooting advantage without a bow quiver.. Any observations that your bare bow shot better than with a bow quiver. Maybe balance was a factor with the bow quiver? Any thoughts?
Either or makes NO difference for me.
What he said ^.
I've always preferred shooting with a quiver on. Weight adds stability whether it's on a trad bow or any other shooting platform. I don't like having a quiver on my hip or back, it always seems to get snagged when I'm sneaking through the woods. It only adds a few inches to the side of the bow rather than adding 30" of length anywhere on my hip or back and allows for quick follow up shots if needed.
I always liked a bow quiver on my Treadway R/d bow and my Jeffrey's recurve . Seemed to give better balance and stability. I don't like a bow quiver on my selfbows or all wood bows so I use a GFA style side quiver I made from an old Selway bow quiver.
Makes no real difference to me, I do feel more comfortable with a quiver less bow when on a sit !!
No quiver when I shoot or hunt. I use a GN Quick Detach quiver to get to and from the stand when hunting, and a side quiver for 3D. For whatever reason, I am not as accurate with the quiver on the bow. Also, when I put a quiver on my bow, the string starts slapping my arm, and I hate that!
So, no quiver for me!!!!!!
Bisch
I prefer without simply so that I don't rub fletching against anything and make the noise.
For me it depends on the bow, my longbow just feels better with the added weight of a quiver where my recurve just feels off balance and heavy with even a light GN bowquiver.
One thing to think about is for me Anyway , a bowquiver will change up my bow/arrow tune somewhat.
I definitely shoot better with a heavier bow, and can understand that one reason people like bow quivers is for the weight they add to the bow. Since I don't like bow quivers, I always go for the heavier bows, to compensate for not having a bow quiver. I use a SafariTuff quiver, which is very quiet, unobtrusive, and doesn't require much movement to remove an arrow and put it on the string.
No quiver on my bow. To easy to get busted with the extra junk hanging off the bow and feathers getting touched making noise. :nono:
A bow really isn't meant to be shot with a bunch of stuff hanging off the side of it. JMO I know many systems have come and gone over the years, and I have tried most of them. This over the shoulder messenger bag with a Kwikee lock system on the flap is what I have settled on for many years now. No longer need a fanny pack, etc. All I need is in there. Whole thing weighs just under 5 pounds. I can hang it on a limb near me while in a tree stand, and the arrows are just under my drawing hand as I'm still hunting.
Well, I'm a bow quiver guy!! Have been for over 40 years....
I just like everything in one "package" when I'm hunting.
I have one of the new Bear/Selway "Grayling" quivers on my Kodiak T/D. It looks COOL too!!! :thumbsup:
Quote from: Wheels2 on October 27, 2020, 02:04:26 PM
I prefer without simply so that I don't rub fletching against anything and make the noise.
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I also find it changes my arrow tune.
I've hunted with a quiver on the bow, but these days that isn't the case.
I generally prefer to shoot without a quiver on the bow. I use a bow quiver, but remove it when I get to the stand.
For hunting yes that way I just grab the bow and I'm set. I don't have to worry about forgetting the arrows.
I just don't like the look or the feel of a quiver on my Hill style bows, but I almost always used them on my recurves.
One thing I have found.... (yes, been there done that)
A bow quiver is either on, or off. For those "tuners"... A quiver, or any other change, will always effect the way your bow shoots. (as you all already know) My hunting bow has a quiver on it, and it stays on. If you keep taking a quiver on and off, it will always shoot differantly when it's on. Or off...
I don't tune my bow. I set it up the way I set up all of my bows. The same way I have for many years...
Brace height, Nock height, Yarn balls, My arrows are all the same. 45-50# or 55-60# (depending on the bow)
125gr field points, Bear Razorheads, or 125gr Zwickey Eskimos. This works for me! YMMV
The point is, if you're going to use a bow quiver, you have to get used to shooting with a bow quiver.
If you watch any of the old Fred Bear films, you never see him shooting without a bow quiver on his bow.
Agree with the tuning comments. On one particular bow that is short and physically super light, the quiver does hinder my tuning(accuracy). The bare bow when strung will balance on my finger in the throat of the grip with a slight tipping toward the bottom limb. Trying this balance with the quiver on and loaded with four arrows causes torque toward quiver and tips to top limb. I think this balance difference can affect tuning.
All quivers are not the same. Some will affect how the bow shoots, others will not. We stay away from large quivers because they can affect how the bow feels in hand. However, I feel confident in using our std. or next larger size on a lightweight bow with no negative effect. We quite often have customers tell us about how the quiver has improved their accuracy, or made the bow less noisy. I have had that experience with lightweight bows.
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Just a few that seemed to like them.... :campfire:
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Recurve shooter and my bow quiver is on all year long. The physical weight does effect my shooting so I leave it on. My hunting areas have a lot of thick stuff and no other quiver works for going through that stuff for me.
I like a small quiver on mine with just 4 arrows. No quiver is not enough and a big quiver or too many arrows is too much. :thumbsup:
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An arrow is a tool and a bow quiver is a handy tool-box.
My bow quiver holds 10. Five broadheads, two Judos, two practice broadheads or two more Judos and a flu-flu rubber blunt. The 'tools' in my 'tool-box' will vary with where I'm going and what I expect to run into. I'd rather look silly with a loaded quiver than look foolish with an empty one.
>>>>>>>-------------------->> A bow quiver can definitely affect the bows tune as can the difference between a full quiver and an almost empty one. Something to keep in mind.
"A bow quiver can definitely affect the bows tune as can the difference between a full quiver and an almost empty one. Something to keep in mind."
Never noticed any affect on my tuning from how many arrows are in my Safari Tuff quiver. Side? Back? I dunno, somewhere in between, I guess. But definitely not on the bow.
Quote from: 2fletch on October 28, 2020, 05:53:01 PM
All quivers are not the same. Some will affect how the bow shoots, others will not. We stay away from large quivers because they can affect how the bow feels in hand. However, I feel confident in using our std. or next larger size on a lightweight bow with no negative effect. We quite often have customers tell us about how the quiver has improved their accuracy, or made the bow less noisy. I have had that experience with lightweight bows.
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Didn't read all the responses. It doesn't matter as far as shooting. Its handy to have a quiver for hunting to grab and go. But with the quiver on the bow doesn't lay in my lap as well so a bow hook is helpful. I make do either way.
I am back on the bow quiver kick this year after many years of using a side quiver. Just seemed like a good option this year. Shooting with the quiver on seems to be no problem.
I always have a Thunderhorn Small Fry on my longbows. I changed grippers so I can carry 5 arrows. Usually 4 broadheads and a blunt. I like having it there. For me it's the best way to carry my arrows and my bows shoot the same with it on or off. I just leave it on year round cause that's how i hunt.
I really wonder if a bow quiver changes how a bow shoots, or accentuates the shooters a form flaws.
If you put said Bow in a shooting machine i don't think the bow will shoot different or 'magically' change the tune of the bow.
Hmmmm.....
Good point, Terry!!!
I have a bunch of old Bear recurves, a Howard Hill "Mountain Man" longbow, a custom hybrid longbow. None of them have quivers on them, and I shoot them just fine!! (Ok, except the Hill, can't seem to hit a bull in the a$$ with it)
I have 2 hunting bows, A 1969 Bear Grizzly with an old double spring arm Bear quiver, and my Bear Kodiak T/D with a Selway/Bear "Grayling" side mount quiver. These quivers stay on these bows, and always will. I like a bow quiver on my hunting bow, and I always have. My very first hunting bow, was a 50# Bear Alaskan with a 4 arrow Bear tape on bow quiver.
I think the real problem many have (as I've said before) Is the switching back and forth between quiver/no quiver, with the same bow... Basicly, it seems to shoot better one way, than the other.
I shot all my bows with and without bow quivers on them and its never made a difference. And hunted with and killed stuff with and without.
C'mon Man!!!!! There's only ONE Terry Green... :archer2:
Not on my bow. I like bright fletching. So I don't want to be waving a whole quiver full around when drawing back on a critter.
Changing tune:Definitely possible if the quiver is mounted on the working part of the limb.
Accuracy: If adding weight doesn't effect accuracy, then all those Olympic shooters sure put a lot of effort into decorating their bows to make them purty.
4 arrow EFA quiver on everything.
I have found that a GN with 4 arrows provides a tad bit of balance and enhances the cant of my bow. Shoot OK without, but like it on. Plus, I have another bullet right there if needed. Guess I've just grown accustomed to having it there.
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I use bow QD bow quivers or an over the back tube going to and from. I don't like stuff on my bow when I'm shooting.
I shoot with bow quiver on all my bows and I carry a side quiver full of stump shooting arrows. :biglaugh:
Just another one of the very personal variables for each archer. Personally I don't. I like a hip quiver. Every one I've shot made noise. I've shot some bows with $150 quivers and they make noise. The arrows are flexible, the rubber grippers are flexible and it's a mechanical attachment with the possibility for movement. Movement is noise.
And it's pretty accepted that bow quivers affect the balance of the bow and often the impact point of arrows. Human arms and hands and hands aren't a shooting machine.
If it works for you use it. Whether on or off. Who cares what Fred Bear did for a quiver?
If in a tree stand the quiver goes on a hook as soon as I'm situated. I prefer it off the bow while hunting.
I DO!!!!! :bigsmyl:
"Fred Bear showed me how"
I'm not trying to disrespect his way or him. But I'm not him nor he me.
Actually, I was kidding!! :bigsmyl:
But truth be told... I started bowhunting during his "Be a 2 Season Hunter" campaign!! (1970's)
"Fred Bear Showed Me How" was advertised everywhere archery equipment was sold.
Yup, old "Papa Bear" showed me how.... Still works for me!! If it ain't broke, don't fix it :archer:
I agree completely.
Switched to a safari arrowmaster this year, inwill.be switiching back to a strap on quiver. As i mainly hunt from a trrestand i usually have something on my back either a stand or a pack, so the arrow master just doesnt seem like it is going to work to well. I do have plans of getting another bow and will ise the back quiver when using that bow for new ground scout and ground sit missions
Bow quivers seem awkward to me, but each to his own.
I'm a bow quiver guy, going all the way back to the hoodless Kwiki Kwiver but one of the guys in the Trad Gang dvd seems to have had a bow quiver on a strap across his left shoulder & hanging horizontal on his right side.
I'm thinking possibly a lighter 4 or 5 arrow bow quiver & hang a days supply of rovers on my side. Always something new to try.
No bow quiver has nothing to do with the way I shoot with or without one.
I like side quivers for hunting.
I prefer no quiver on my bow. It feels and shoots better I M O. I have always detached bow quivers and hung them nearby when on stand. My two biggest issues with bowquivers: some are quite noisy and rattle, when you move your bow you are flashing a quiver full of feathers.
I use a Thunderhorn BOA with with quick mount straps on my longbow. I keep my brace height at the low end, and the quiver really helps to dampen any hand shock.
I just purchased an Eagle's Flight mini max 4 arrow quiver. I really like this super light, minimal quiver. It has nice balance on my light weight 54" longbow.