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Title: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 27, 2020, 11:39:20 PM
Was wondering what to expect with some arrows I'm making up.  Found some shafts that are tapered on both ends at 27" and with a Woody weight measure 28 1/4" BOP.  My draw must be shorter with this D-shape longbow pulling 70#ish at my DL.  I pressure fit a Broadhead on and was able to draw without knocking it off, that is short for me.  Need to remeasure DL in morning.  Shaft with stain, 3 coats of polyacrylic and nock is @525-530 grains.  75 grain Woody weight.  190 grain tip.  That's 825-830 without fletching.  These must be some of tapered Maple I had???  I'll launch one tomorrow to see what I have created!!!   Who knows maybe they'll fly.
Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Bronoulli on May 28, 2020, 09:19:12 AM
That is a heavy arrow. Let us know how it flies at 10 and 30 yards. You do not want a horrible trajectory. I know Clay Hayes suggests a 10-11 GPP weighted arrow (mentioned in one of his YouTube videos).
Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: snag on May 28, 2020, 09:31:47 AM
Need to know the spine weight of the shafts. Without that we can't help you. But with 265 grains upfront out of a 70# bow. Those shafts better spine over 90# or more.
Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 28, 2020, 11:18:14 AM
Not sure what spine arrows I have and no way to check.  I'll fill you in.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Petrichor on May 28, 2020, 11:48:03 AM
Might be ok at 10 yards after that i suspect they are gonna be dirt divers lol.  If they dont work as an arrow you might be able to throw them as a spear.  :biglaugh: that's a heavy arrow.
Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on May 28, 2020, 12:36:00 PM
I don't know that there'll be any issue with trajectory. It's a 70 lb straight longbow, which are known to do well with heavier arrows. In for the results.
Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 28, 2020, 12:56:07 PM
Ok, 15 bareshafted at @6 yards.  Tapered arrow 27 1/2" BOP.  190 grain FP.  740-750 grain total weight.   Didn't add 75 grain WW.  Two tad left nock high right. When I bored a hole and really focused on release and follow through, it was hard to say only 2-3" out of foam maybe nock a smidge high.  But it snaps to target. 
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 28, 2020, 07:36:17 PM
Bit more distance tomorrow.  May back down front end weight to get better flight.  Even with a Zwickey this would be a hammer.  Or judo points.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 28, 2020, 08:13:41 PM
I'm with TD these arrows move out, found some 28 1/2" that may be a better fit for hunting arrows. 
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 29, 2020, 04:12:19 PM
190 grain FP at 11-12 yards and poor release on 2 shots sends if left with ock high. More focused better release and arrow is close to POA but still a bit nock high.
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Would backing down point weight help.
Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 30, 2020, 12:00:12 AM
Dropped to 160 grain FP and at 12 yards arrow almost hit target sideways up and down.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Silent footed on May 30, 2020, 10:11:12 PM
I'm liking how heavy those are... I'm working on some right now with Douglas fir (untapered). Depending on which woody weight I go with out of the test kit, should be between 680 and 730. (Almost 14 gpp with my bow). Pretty excited. Making up two dozen hopefully with some flu-flus included too!
Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on May 30, 2020, 11:58:46 PM
Gonna try the woody weight again and also make up one that is 28 1/2" to try out.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 03, 2020, 12:04:03 AM
Got my Go To longbow back and the first bare shaft through this 66.5# bow from @11 yards with 160 grain tip snapped off the last 14" of 70/75# shaft as it hit the target.  Guess I'll go heavier.  Save these for light Zwickey heads.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 04, 2020, 11:01:53 PM
It is getting interesting trying to get woodies that will push a 190 VPA or Grizzly Instinct head takes a heavy shaft that weighs 600 grains bare.  Made up at 29" will be 860+.  We'll see how it goes and perhaps I'll be shooting 2315 or 2219 at 620-670 grains.  But I will give wood shafts a go, they should be good to 20 yards.  And they'll hit with a THUMP!!!
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 05, 2020, 08:19:00 PM
Getting it dialed in and have some headed my way try out.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 13, 2020, 10:00:22 AM
Was given a bunch of Leopard wood and Mahogany arrows to try out, we'll see how they do.  Thanks Justin.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 16, 2020, 12:59:58 PM
Still experimenting with Leopard Wood and Mahogany, but with 190 grain heads they tend a tad nock high.  I'll add WW 75 grain and see.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 17, 2020, 08:17:41 PM
It has been recommended that I use Woody weights under the heavy points which might work, news at  11!!!
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 22, 2020, 10:58:38 PM
Have been trying some other things with this bow and finally got to test the 75 grain WW and 190 grain FP with the mahogany arrow.  28 3/4" VON to BOP and @865 grains.  Flies pretty quick from 66#+ D/R longbow.  Shooting at a small green leaf in front of target and hits right behind leaf every time from 7/10/12/15 yards.  With a thump!!!  This should make a good hog arrow.  Getting excited about these heavy arrows.  Switched back to 4 arrow EFA again, this quiver seems to fit the snuggest of the four I've tried, also the lightest.  I have a GFA or GN sidekick to carry extras as needed.
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Title: Re: Wood arrows with allot of weight up front? - Correction
Post by: Wudstix on June 23, 2020, 12:09:48 AM
Is 11.7% FOC good for this 865 grain arrow or does it matter?
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